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Please continue response on Matthew 18, because you have not addressed it sufficiently. The guy was forgiven, meaning he was a believer, and the forgiveness was rescinded, meaning his belief was taken away--just as the lazy servant in Matthew 25, who has the "talent", the measure of faith...

Yep, they moved away, and their faith counted as righteousness was forgotten, which means, effectively, that they never were saved. If you're blotted out of the Book of Life, your name is not going to be read from it, thus it effectively isn't there.

1. That's kinda arbitrary. 2. Anyway, the saved are always saved, because the ones who fall away were never saved!

Oh, is it wrong to take phrases in tiny contexts? LOL

You know what they say : Psalm 139:12Darkness and light are alike The saved cannot become unsaved, because those who are dismissed were never saved. I just believe what I read!

In both name and reality--those who fall away were never saved, and the saved remain saved forever!

How ever you want to read Heb 6, the point is that those who fall away (I think you're NOSAS right?) are accounted as having never believed, never having been saved... therefore, the saved are kept and never lose salvation, "if they were of us they would have continued with us", because God...

@marks Remember, I'm "oddly OSAS"--I hold to OSAS.

Those who irretrievably fall away (there are degrees--Heb 6 says they cannot be retrieved, but Paul sought to restore the Galatians), God forgets their faith counted as righteousness, which, effectively, results in the categorization of them as "never believed--never saved", all the while, the...

@marks What I am saying is we should all believe as you do--trust entirely in God, because God is awesome, not us.

And? How does that have anything to do with the reality that God will rescind forgiveness from those who do not forgive--and that, since being forgiven is by faith, this means the removal of their faith?

1. Jesus uses the example of an unjust judge to say "HOW MUCH MORE will the Just Judge do justice?" 2. Jesus says "So my Heavenly Father will do to you"--I accept it just as I read it, as you say. I hope you will, too.

The condemnation in v22 is one condemnation, the condemnation in v23 is another--one person is condemned for how he eats with faith (in a way that causes his brother to stumble), the other person is condemned for eating without faith. No, it's not the unpardonable sin, it's just stating that...

No, Jesus did not teach forgiveness in return for performance; Jesus taught that those who are forgiven ought to forgive, and if they do not forgive, then the forgiveness extended them will be rescinded, because He is fair ("Oh, really? You don't forgive? Let me rescind the forgiveness I...

The man is condemned in Ro 14:23 because he broke the rule--"each man must be fully convinced in his own mind" because "God's righteousness is revealed from faith to faith" Ro 1:17.

The parable shows forgiveness can be rescinded. Forgiveness is by faith; forgiveness rescinded is the removal of faith.

Jesus hadn't forgiven the Jews all their debts. Again, that's only for believers. Jesus taught these things to the disciples, and told them "Go disciple the nations teaching them to observe when I taught you."

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Yes, just as Matthew 18 says "I forgave you, shouldn't you have forgiven?"

I hereby categorically deny you said those words. LOL Happy?