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  1. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    And yet Paul tells us, in Hebrews 1:6 (WEB): (6) When he again brings in the firstborn into the world he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him.”
  2. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Why have you changed Lord to LORD and claimed that it is YHWH? It is simply Lord; it is not God's name. Why did you deliberatley leave out the rest of the sentence? Philippians 2:11 (WEB): (11) and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father...
  3. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Still repeating the same old post over and over, eh? I count that's 15 times in this thread now. Please stop! :rolleyes:
  4. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Seeing as it is nearly Easter (it's Good Friday tomorrow), it's a good time to consider the words of Jesus when he was hanging on the cross. He said, Matthew 27:46 (WEB): (46) About the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lima sabachthani?” That is, “My God, my God...
  5. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    What did Jesus say was the greatest commandment? Mark 12:28-31 (WEB): (28) One of the scribes came, and heard them questioning together. Knowing that he had answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the greatest of all?” (29) Jesus answered, “The greatest is, ‘Hear, Israel, the...
  6. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Jesus interpreted it as follows, Matthew 22:31-32 (WEB): (31) But concerning the resurrection of the dead, haven’t you read that which was spoken to you by God, saying, (32) ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?’ God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”
  7. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    So it's referring to God (all of God, not just a part of God) and the Lamb (Jesus). That's two separate beings - God and God's son Jesus. How do you find servants in 1 Corinthians chapters 12-15? I only see references to members of the body of Christ (the Church) and to every human being (the...
  8. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    How do you deduce that from: (3) There will be no curse any more. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will serve him. (4) They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. (5) There will be no night, and they need no lamp light; for the Lord God...
  9. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    From the same chapter, Revelation 22:3-5 (WEB): (3) There will be no curse any more. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will serve him. (4) They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. (5) There will be no night, and they need no lamp light...
  10. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    What? :confused: Post #665 is the clue that you're referring to in post #665? That can't be right!
  11. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    The demons knew who Jesus was (not YHWH). There's a clue in what the demon said - "What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth?". Who do you think "the Holy One of God" was? Hint, Luke 1:35 (WEB): The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will...
  12. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    God's (Elohim's) name is YHWH. Elohim and YHWH are two completely different words with different meanings. Elohim is often used in the Old Testament to refer to beings/persons other than God. I don't have a blind in my heart, but what about it if I did? Or did you mean "You are blind", or...
  13. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    What makes you think the second "our" is referring to a different person(s) to the first "our"? Most people would understand that sentence to mean "Let us make man in our image and likeness". That's not what the Hebrew Scriptures says. You previously posted "Elohim of Abraham, Elohiom of...
  14. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Elohim is not a name, just like 'servant' and 'father' are not names - elohim is the word 'god' in English. "The LORD" is God's name - it's just a bad translation that has replaced God's name with a title. The name in the original Hebrew text is YHVH. In your contrivance to try and make a...
  15. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I think with my mind, not my heart, and my grandson example is totally logical - it's even common sense! If I had a grandson then I would have to have been alive before he was born, in order to be the father of my grandson's father. It's not difficult to understand that! If you can't...
  16. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Your logic is flawed. If I was to say "I have been alive from before my grandson was born", that would not mean that I was claiming to have always been alive going back to the beginning of time. You would be wrong to believe that. Similarly, it is not logical to deduce that Jesus had been...
  17. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    The only evidence you have given that Jesus has always existed is your assumption that Jesus is declaring himself to be God YHVH in John 8:58. However, he is not claiming that, and you have presented no other evidence that supports your claim! As I said, Jesus claiming he had been alive from...
  18. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    No, my understanding from Scripture is that event is still future.
  19. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    The outset of the conversation is verse 12: (12) Again, therefore, Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.” Jesus also said, while preaching the sermon on the mount, Matthew 5:14 (WEB): (14)...
  20. keithr

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    You clearly can't seem to understand the conversation that is recorded in John 8:31-58. I highlighted some of the conversation in post #570 to make it easier for you to see the what was being discussed (it's not about who God is), but you still can't understand it. I think Jesus' words in...