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  1. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    God is a spirit being (John 4:24), Adam was a man, so clearly there was no physcial likeness at all. I've always understood it to mean that mankind was made to have the same character as God (loving, righteous, just, caring, generous, wise, sense of humour, appreciation of beauty, etc.)...
  2. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Such arrogance! If you can't back up your statements with Bible verse references, then you should not make those statements. You stated: angels and men: do not worship me it is evil Where does it say that in the Bible? And again, what's the point you're trying to make? You stated: Satan...
  3. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    What's the Bible reference for that? Of course the king of all mankind, a king of kings, is greater than just the king of Israel. But why is a king of more than one nation greater than almighty God?! Was Nebuchadnezzar greater than God? Daniel said to him, Daniel 2:37 (WEB): You, O king...
  4. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    I said, Jesus never claimed to be the king of the Jews. You replied: What's the Bible reference? How is that Jesus claiming to be the king of Israel? What's the Bible reference? Do you mean Matthew 4:10 (Then Jesus said to him, “Get behind me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship...
  5. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    But you are not your father. There is no reason to suppose that God's begotten Son was his Father either. That is illogical. Especially when Jesus refers to his Father as his Father and his God, and acknowledges that his Father is greater than he is.
  6. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Jesus admitted that he was the Messiah, but he never claimed to be the king of the Jews. It was the Jews who made that assumption. Jesus said to Pilate: “My Kingdom is not of this world. If my Kingdom were of this world, then my servants would fight, that I wouldn’t be delivered to the Jews...
  7. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    So not just the king of Israel then!
  8. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Why have you capitalised 'Lord' to give the impression that it is God's name rather than the title 'Lord' or 'master'? Most definitely not! The prophecy referred to (Zechariah 9:9) is predicting the triumph of Israel and the fall of the neighbouring nations. It is referring to the time when...
  9. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Nathanael first said "You are the Son of God!" That is the important point that he believed. God was originally the King of Israel, but the people wanted a human king instead (1 Samuel 8:7 - 'Yahweh said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they tell you; for they have not...
  10. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Yes, I have read them. What is your point? Where does it confirm that Jesus is the king of Israel? Some people called him that, but not Jesus himself nor God. In Daniel the Messiah is referred to as a prince: Daniel 9:25 (KJV): Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of...
  11. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    I didn't cut it out - I quoted verses 33-36 with no omissions. In verse 37 Jesus confirms that he is "a king", but he doesn't say that he is the king of Israel. What Kingdom did Jesus preach about? It wasn't the kingdom of Israel. Here's a few clues: Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in...
  12. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    John 18:33-36 (WEB): (33) Pilate therefore entered again into the Praetorium, called Jesus, and said to him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” (34) Jesus answered him, “Do you say this by yourself, or did others tell you about me?” (35) Pilate answered, “I’m not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and...
  13. keithr

    Genesis chapter 30

    Bible quotes from the WEB (World English Bible), comments from the Cambridge Bible Notes (emboldening by me): (32) I will pass through all your flock today, removing from there every speckled and spotted one, and every black one among the sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats...
  14. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    He was accused of claiming to be the king of the Jews. Because they didn't understand what he was saying.
  15. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    You are misquoting. It does not say 'almighty God', it says, Isaiah 9:6 (KJV): (6) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
  16. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Psalms 40:7-8 (WEB): (7) Then I said, “Behold, I have come. It is written about me in the book in the scroll. (8) I delight to do your will, my God. Yes, your law is within my heart.” Jesus spoke the words that God told him to speak, but nevertheless God's law was written in his heart - he...
  17. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Psalms 82:1,6-8 (WEB): (1) A Psalm by Asaph. God presides in the great assembly. He judges among the gods. (6) I said, “You are gods, all of you are sons of the Most High. (7) Nevertheless you shall die like men, and fall like one of the rulers.” (8) Arise, God, judge the earth, for you...
  18. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    As I wrote, there is no mention at all of the "Spirit" in the passage you quoted, so it is NOT "there". So why don't you believe what you quote? It declares that Jesus is the Son of God, not that he is God. At Pentecost, after Jesus' resurrection, we're told, Acts 2:3-4 (WEB): (3) Tongues...
  19. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Jesus said, after his resurrection, "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth" (Matthew 28:18), which would definitely make him a god (a mighty being), so there was no reason to correct Thomas. It does not make Jesus to be the only true almighty God though. As Jesus said, in...