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That is what the scripture says and what this book says.

I must have a different bible to you. All mine say... Ephesians 4:11 And indeed He (JESUS) gave some to be apostles, and some prophets; and some evangelists; and some shepherds and teachers; Ephesians 4:12 with a view to the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry, for the...

I don't make empty assertions. I do what I have been trained to do and that is to leave no stone unturned when I am wanting to find the truth.

I have been doing a bit more digging and came up with some surprising information. Kenneth Copeland is not very well respected because of his wealth. He is reported to have a net worth of just over $600 million but.....I have found out that there are two African pastors who have a net worth of...

I agree. Abortion is offensive and disgusting as the picture shows and a few people have objected to being reminded how offensive and disgusting it is.

Whether this comes under money and riches I am not quite sure but I would like to point out something that is very important. In the first five years of our marriage, we had two little toddlers and during that time I lost my job and was out of work for several weeks. All I had was less than 20...

A lovely example of reading into the text what is not there. Nice try, however. Rather than doing exegesis, you have extrapolated which are not the same thing.

I am sorry you see it that way as I have found it to be the exact opposite. When I went to Bible College and got stuck into the "knowledge" thing, I could not get enough of it as it was life to all my flesh. As they say, if you have the word you dry up, if you have the spirit, you blow up, if...

Try subtraction or multiplying.

And if you suggest that Sunday is not the day the NTC met on, it was Saturday, you are a heretic. I have just finished reading a book that gives the background to the NTC after Pentecost and every reference to a meeting was either in the evening for a meal or on a Saturday for a meeting. Not...

Where is the reference to Jesus in Ephesians 4:11 apart from being the giver of the gifts? I don't see why he would need to give the gift of shepherding to himself.

I have just finished reading a book about the background to the New Testament Church after Pentecost and the Priests who ran life and the temple were very rich because they demanded all sorts of payments from the people. Apparently you never saw a poor priest. If you were poor and less than...

I believe he is a catholic and quite open about it.

It doesn't alter the fact that Shepherd is Greek and pastor is Latin.

Always welcome. Trouble is us autistic people do not always pick it for what it is.

Are you saying the KJV is the tree of life?

One has to go to scripture to determine what it means to be rich. Matthew 19:23 And Jesus said to His disciples, Truly I say to you that a rich man will with great difficulty enter into the kingdom of Heaven. Being rich can be a barrier to entering the kingdom of God. Jesus said that so it is...

First, you have to define what you mean by church? In today's understanding or what is in scripture. So let me give you a clue. In scripture, it says where two or three are gathered together in my name there I am in the midst. That is a basic church approved by God. In today's understanding it...

According to your theology but not according to 99% of everyone else theology. You are on your own on that one. I can see by your last comment that the only inspired word of God is the King James Version. So I have to ask which cave you live in? The original Greek gives you a much better...

Obtuse is what it is known as. The Greek is Shepherd. The Latin is Pastor. one and the same.