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:D Humanistic reasoning? My reasoning comes directly from Christ and Paul and what they tell us of the OT and the future. You know. It strikes me that I give what feels like copious of scriptures to back and suport my opinions. You just give your opinions. Humanistic. Snort.

I suspect you are struggling to grasp it because, like most of us here, you live in a Country where it is hard to imagine not having the freedom we have. The problem is that we are, in fact, not the majority, in terms of these sorts of freedoms. How many Islamic Countries are there? Russia is...

I could refute you, I suppose, as I think you are very wrong in what you are doing and how you are reading scripture. Instead, I'll just sit tight for a few weeks, and hopefully that will prove my point for me. When nothing happens...do me a favour and re-think your theology.

Living 'ready' is very different than thinking we can be a lawyer and sneak around the 'no one knows the day and hour' rule by instead knowing the year and month. Take a step back from the hype and check out what Jesus was meaning. If we live for him everyday, we'll be completely ready and...

Sorry, I don't have the time to read linked to stuff. I can barely keep up here.

But you don't do it, do you? Let me give an example. In Rev 1:12 we see Jesus walking amoung 7 lampstands. In Verse 20 we're told the lampstands are the 7 churches. Simple, right? Literal. But then in Rev 11 we are introduced to the 2 witnesses. Dispensationalists say these have to be two...

I'm sorry, but none of these verses divorce the Rapture with the Second Coming. The bible lists several things about Christ's coming, and they all appear in accordance with one another and the one event. Let's see...I've marked each passage below so similar subjects match. Red deals with...

I have not really made a study of Zephaniah. But, from what I can tell of the passage in question, doesn't it just really talk about Israel's unfaithfulness (mostly the leaders in this instance) and coming judgement against them and all the nations, whom he will gather, before he pours out his...

No. I don't hate dispensationalists. What I have issue with is double standards and objectionable doctrine. God's word should not be pummelled around to fit a doctrine, not when it clearly says some things and not others. People shouldnt' be made to feel bad for thinking something when the...

Well, that's not a huge mystery, either. In the Roman culture of John's day, the mechanism would have been the Christian's themselves. Their refusal to go the the guild meetings, to worship the gods, to participate in the wild bacchanals they held to both their patron gods and to the Roman...

Wait. I'm sorry. I have to put my sarcasm hat on for this, because it just beggars belief. First, I have been asking you for DAYS, on various threads, for verses to prove your side. You've dodged thus far. Hmm. Next, you say that the "day of the Lord" is over 1000 years (#30). Which, I rather...

Well, I think that's the nicest compliment I've ever received, thank you! I have no doubt I get many...many things wrong...but that's all I want, to remain true to Gods word. It's precious, and it's powerful. Freewill, huh? Going for the big guns! To be perfectly honest, I've tiptoed around that...

Ah, no. Plucked a number out of the air. You DO know we cannot know the date of Christ's return, right? In which case you are in contravention of scripture and Christ's own ruling. I get being eager about his return, and sure, it would be incredibly exciting to be able to know...but we can't...

Sure. I appologise, this might be a little long: Here are some of the key parts of Matt 24-25: “Immediately after the tribulation..the sun will be darkened..the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven..the powers of the heavens will be shaken...all the tribes of the...

At times it is explained in the text itself, true. But we have to also consider two other factors about it. In the very first verse John uses the words semaino (communicate by symbols) and deichnumi (show) and all throughout the book he uses "I saw". He is telling us clearly this is a book...

Ah, there's that strawman. Stuff it nice and full now, it won't burn as bright as you want it to unless you do. Ok. Sock it to me. Give me the scriptures that prove your Rapture verses are a different event than the second coming. While we're at it, how about you give me the verses that show...

You seem to missing my point on HOW the NT reinterprets OT prophecies. For example, instead of just being promised Canaan, the 'promised land' is now the whole earth: For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the...

I totally agree that sitting on clouds will not be our eternal destiny! Work to the glory of God will be what we're called to do, except, in a place where there is no sin, it won't really be "work". It will be satisfying and enjoyable, something we do with ease and comaraderie with others. No...

I grant you, the descriptions seem different, but I put to you that they are not fundamentally different. They all, do they not, describe Jesus descending down, out of heaven? The key here, I believe, is that, like the gospels, we have to realise that for various reasons, the accounts are...

It could well be, but it also might not be. Here's the thing: numbers are used all the time in scripture symbolically. Dispensationalists really don't like it when we say stuff like that, but it's true, and even their theologians recognise it. And even they use the same principles when it suits...