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  1. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    If you mean today, then yes, it is just some. If you mean after the wonderful judgments of God that bring Israel to finally repent (the remnant left alive at the time) then absolutely! ALL Israel shall be saved!
  2. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The Jews in Israel who all get saved are at the end of the tribulation. The remnant. Not every Jew who ever lived! Didn't I already make that clear? What is your problem?
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The seals seem to cover the whole span from beginning to end of the events of that time. Then, as the bible often tends to do, it goes back and covers things in more detail. If that is the case, then yes, the sixth seal would be after the Tribulation. Simple. They came OUT of great...
  4. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Did I say those people would be living at the end of the tribulation? Try to be honest.
  5. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Except all Israel will be saved, says God Almighty. Your opinion is overruled.
  6. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    It simply includes the folks in Israel left alive after most are killed in that time of trouble coming. Finally, after severe judgments, they will be saved. Not sure why you dredged up some vile person from thousands of years ago. Right, they do turn in the end. Not now. What are you missing...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    You thought God was bringing gog to attack saved people? When all the remaining (remnant) people in a nation get saved it is no longer some little personal thing.
  8. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    He never placed God restoring Jews to the land at all actually. Try to focus, and be honest. Except it is actually. Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: That does not happen...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    All removing is in the time of Jacob's trouble (tribulation). In the end all the remaining people of Israel get saved. Then He brings the Jewish (now believers) back to that land as promised. You are in no position to cast judgment. We do know all Israel gets saved in the end. So? What is your...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Now they are known as the tribulation saints. When the time is here they will be the only saints around. All Israel shall be saved. They will look on Him whom they pierced and believe in the end, and weep as for an only son. Says...who? You made that up. So who are those men? They are the...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    That is incorrect. Jeremiah 10:10 But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. Zep 14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    None of these verses say any such thing. Example, 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 1 Peter 2:10 Which in time past were...
  13. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    No more than thinking that the land of Israel will be invaded in the end. Did you think they were going to attack only some lost tribe? There are clear promises for Israel, the children of Abraham, and there are clear promises for Christians. You conflate them. If they were not His people why...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    First, yes. He died for all the world, and even when here to start with Israel He reached out somewhat, such as the woman at the well. Jesus did not die for Israel only! I see. So by pretending He died only for Israel, you think we can include ourselves in Israel! That is building error on...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    If you claim you will never go to heaven, then I am not part of that 'we'. Not at all. Believers do go to be where He is when they die, or in the Rapture. That is the hope of ages, and yes, we are strangers and pilgrims here and Paul was not 'seriously wrong' I do not see the love of God in...
  16. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    That all comes off sounding like you have a chip on your shoulders against Jews. God is nothing like that. It seems you like to call anyone that knows God and that He keeps His promises a 'Judiazer'. Nor do I recall God saying some tribes would be restored leaving others 'unrestored'? When...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Isaiah 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness That means He was talking to Jewish people. Or did you think Gentiles mean all but Christians? It talks about land. Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    That talks about Zion and Jerusalem. Is that what you thought you were? For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until her righteousness go forth as brightness, and her salvation as a lamp that burneth. I don't recall Jesus promising us that land...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    No. Having believers on earth does not usher in a new world or righteousness. Jesus returning does that. There are tons of prophesies about the end involving Israel that have to be fulfilled. ? The third temple is built by 'the new Israel'?? Let's look at that. If your idea of what...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    So if I say that 'after' I post I will fly to Germany, that is a certain time. So when the prophesy says 'from' the issuing of a commandment, that denotes a certain starting point. The whole prayer starts off as Daniel was realizing that a time specific prophesy was coming to an end. in the...