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  1. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    So you can't answer once again. What's the matter, afraid to be clear, or unable? Just like the topic here, you seemed to claim that the battle involving Gog invading Israel was at the end of the 1000 years, no? Another point on the timing of that war, if God redeems Israel who all get saved...
  2. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    So where is it?
  3. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Yes it corresponds. Not in a way that says that there is no battle involving Gog in the Tribulation though. So, to be clear, I offered several reasons why the prophesy was not about the battle at the end of the thousand years. Here is a quote from where I addressed this and for which you have...
  4. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    So now you seem to be saying that Eze 38 talks about the events in the Tribulation. Try being clear.
  5. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Great, another poster that likes to spout off his opinion as if it could be the only one and God agrees with him. Anyhow, I think I posted many reasons why the invasion did not sound like the events at the end of the 1000 years. Now if you were trying to say that maybe also the chapter applies...
  6. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    You are not God and your opinion is your own actually. Did I say God was wrong?? Why say things that are not true in any way? So I am not sure what your point is. Are you saying that there can and is only one battle involving Gog? or..?
  7. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    You got that out of all the things I listed? And still you totally misrepresent what I said!
  8. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    Not sharing deluded opinions is not darkness.You might as well tell us that this verse really means 'God will send you to everlasting fire and torments and you will no longer be forgiven, or covered or saved etc. Psalm 32:1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. We...
  9. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    Ignoring context and the rest of the bible is all that actually. He loses none. He is the Good Shepherd. Branches get pruned and purged, and even some get burned, but all for their good. Knowing God is anything but cognitive dissonance. Your religious hardness is what is inflexible and wrong...
  10. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    That is about fruits. If people really are sincere they will be in Him. We will not be burned in hell once we are saved. Our works can be burned and cast into the fire by men. No man can pluck us from His hand. The only thing men can cast away and burn is something like our works if they are not...
  11. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    I disagree That is not saved people being tossed into hell. The context in John 15 is bearing fruit, not salvation! John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. So yes, of course the works...
  12. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    Wrong, you don not like others who will not accept your skewed choices of interpretations. Rather than self righteous blather, it would be good to address the issues here.
  13. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    Great, so they will be with Him one day, not thrown into hell.
  14. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    By what measure you judge, you shall be judged. Your opinions were already shown to be grossly in error. Claiming they are somehow associated with Scripture will be easy to expose. Matthew 7:8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall...
  15. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    The Father only chooses those that choose Jesus. Paul choose Jesus when he came to the light. God makes the Way, but we must choose. We have the ability because God sent Jesus to die and would not have done so if we could not choose to accept His gift of eternal life. That depends on what you...
  16. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    You did no such thing It is all that is needed. The rest comes after. Bingo. That is news? Whosoever will let him come, Jesus says. When we choose God we are chosen. God tried to draw all men to Him, but bot all will come to Him. Salvation is a choice we make, not a fate we were programmed...
  17. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    All the way through the chapter in that verse, before and after the we is believers. Example 2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
  18. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    Who is the 'we' here? Looking at the context in an earlier verse, it is pretty clear. 2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. That is not about the unsaved dead...
  19. dad

    Only Believers are Resurrected?

    We are raised because He is capable of raising us. We are raised to everlasting life because we chose Jesus. In any case He is the One that raises us. Your claim that the bible disagrees is less than ludicrous to put it politely. Yet raised they will be the bible says. Some to everlasting shame...