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But yeah you were dead-on with that statement about mindlessness--but I do want to insist that that is a completely separate issue!

I specifically said it was both--that we are God's clothing (because "that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ"), and God is our clothing (because Jesus's Name is "God Is Our Righteousness").

I did not mean we should be mindless when I said God "wears" us, BUT I do have a problem with mindlessness just because I was Buddhist (among other things--was infant baptized Roman Catholic, had been forced into Islam by my terrorist Muslim step father, then drug to Protestant Church, then was...

Thanks! The fact that God "wears" us has nothing to do with "mindlessness", because when we use our minds properly that would be God's acting, too. That's a good point. I think I agree? Except I don't know that I believe people can't fall away. No, actually, I agree with you about it not...

Well, take it up with John, who says that Isaiah's vision of "God" was Jesus. Also, while God was "husband" to His people, Israel, Jesus is "husband" to God's people, believers (the Church)--you have a big problem on that one, and your overly simplistic explanations do nothing to resolve them...

Well, part of my point was that we can see how God may deal with us in our lives by the example of how He dealt with Peter--He is with us, He loves us, He accepts us, even knowing our ignorance, and even in our ignorance we are not necessarily offensive in doing what we believe is correct...

Cool. Yeah, that confused me a little. lol

Yeah, but Christ had already told them to go to the nations, so there really is a question as to how much of that was really God's will versus Peter's potential lack of insight into the ramifications of Christ's death and resurrection. Sure, Peter understood you could get forgiveness of sins if...

Idk why I can't see the attachments, but, anyhow, I stand by what I said--the Hebrew does not support the the notion that Wisdom/Christ was "created", and a fool cannot create wisdom. Also, your story didn't answer either of those and was a waste of my time. You probably had that "left over"...

Not only so, but, as I said, think of the conclusion you'd have to reach: you'd be saying that God was a fool at some point, then, at some other point, God--Whom you claim lacked wisdom, and, so, was a fool--somehow managed to "invent" or "create" wisdom. Foolishness! Don't say that about God!

Oops, you answered before having read. Proverbs 18 13He who answers a matter before he hears it— this is folly and disgrace to him.

OK "What God was, the Word was", to my mind, makes Christ's being, in a sense, contingent upon God's being--but God is not contingent upon Christ. I'm not saying they're equals in that sense. But even Philippians 2 will tell you Christ had equality with God--"What God was, the Word was". Are...

It's the unavoidable conclusion of your abuse of the text--if that fact is unpalatable to you, then change your mind. But if you hate the truth that much (as you've demonstrated a number of times already), do I really need to spend my time discussing with you? No, not really.

OK thanks for informing me of your "findings". Like your "findings" from Scripture, they're incoherent nonsense.

What is "interesting" is that, on your reading, the fact that Paul teaches the exact same thing is merely "coincidental". Your hermeneutic is a hermeneutic that tolerates such "coincidences", I've noticed. Ridiculous lol

It's not at all "interesting", it's plainly true. Lol

Nope, the issue is "it's better to not be married" as the conclusion reached from having heard Christ's ruling.

When Jesus says "not all men are given the gift of accepting this saying", He's referring to something that is OPTIONAL. Following Christ's overruling of the Torah is not OPTIONAL. To go against it would constitute sin, whereas to be unable to live as a eunuch is not sin. And again He goes on to...

Nope. The saying that only some men are given the gift of accepting is "its better not to be married"--same as Paul says in 1 Co 7 ("but each man has his own gift"). That's why Jesus goes on to talk about eunuchs.

The point is that "not all men can accept it" bc if they tried to live it they would be miserable, not content ("godliness with contentment"). What I'm getting after is what a godly life is meant to be characterized by.