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Awwww, proving or not proving; the mindset is wearisome. There is no life and no hope just a continual rolling out of ego.......and why is this type of trajectory attractive and active? Is it not because the glory of the one and only has not captured the imagination? And yes, AJ is steeped in...

have you forgotten, prediction does not equal causation?

God will bring ruin?? Do you really believe God causes these events?

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Yes.....and that is what God does in every case. He allows the stiff-necked and the recalcitrant to reap what they sowed but not without first trying to woo them again and again....even protecting them from the consequences coming down the pike. Another example would be the fall of Jerusalem...

It hinges on 'he gave them over'. It means, all this time he was protecting them from the consequences of their choices but they insisted on their choices so God gave them over to its consequences. In other words, their choices resulted in the troubles (depravity, lack of insight and relational...

I think you have it backwards Behold. Firstly, God doesn't need blood. He can make barrels of it if that is the case. It is men who want bllood ie, killing, aka the cessation of life. God forgives because that's his nature (quite different to yours and mine....we want payment....either revenge...

Has anyone bothered to look at Romans 1:18-32...and hear it? From the posts submitted I doubt it. Romans 1: 18-32 opens a way of understanding God's wrath that cuts clean across the angry paradigm traditionally used.

Oi to you SnC

yes, I will save you from posting a hundred scriptures but you can tell us what you deem God's wrath to consist of

How is it we interpret God's wrath or his severity through an angry paradigm. It appears the definition of God's wrath in Roman 1:18 onwards, has escaped us?

I s'pose God was really wrathful when he brought gifts of clothing to Adam and Eve in the garden!

so be it!

very good!

Stick around for a while longer.

The purpose of OT writings was to give people a record of God's dealings with them and to point to a greater hope, the embodiment which was in the promises made to the Patriarchs from Adam and in particular Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Ultimately these promises were fulfilled in Jesus as Paul...

good works, bad doesn't

All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed. Revelation 6:15-17 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They...

Loving your enemy is a far higher bar than loving your neighbour as yourself. Is there anyone who actually loves their neighbour as themselves or is it just an ideal that sounds good and to which lip service is given?

Yes, I was in error！