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  1. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Still spamming rather than addressing the topic?
  2. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    On the contrary, I have posted many verses showing that we reign with Him for 1000 years and at the end of that time the fire destroys the last enemies and we see a new earth and heaven. Try not not allow your denial to become railing accusations that anyone reading these posts can see are...
  3. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Lovely verses. Too bad you cannot achieve some sort of point.
  4. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    The word of God says that we will rule here for 1000 years and then the fire from heaven comes and the earth is made new. Any and all fires before that are localized. That is what the word of God says.
  5. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    That's what you think. You conflate events in the 1000 years and clump them all into a few hours, despite the specific times given in the bible. The destruction of earth is not at the beginning of His kingdom by any stretch of a Jehovah Witness imagination, or the wily molestation of Scripture...
  6. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    The 1000 years is not a time of wrath. It is a time when the world is ruled by the Prince of peace Himself. In case anyone doubts this-- Revelation 15:1 I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues—last, because with them God's wrath is completed...
  7. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    On that we agree. It would be difficult ruling over nations when the earth was already destroyed by fire.
  8. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    The world will be ruled by Jesus and His saints for 1000 years as the bible clearly states. The world could not be totally destroyed for that to happen. In fact the world will be much like the pre flood world, with people living a looong time, plants growing fast and abundant, etc. Any other...
  9. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Yes. I also heard when that happens, at the end of the 1000 yrs. False. The world is not getting destroyed and burned up till after the 1000 yrs. After the 1000 years. Before that any fire is localized and not planet wide. No idea what you think that actually means or how it relates to the...
  10. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Try to focus. The topic is not your opinion of what heaven is or is not. Maybe read the OP again.
  11. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    How does that relate to the thread? Point? How does that relate to the Rapture? The sky is not the universe. Nor are the heavens God created celestial. Not sure why you are blowing smoke here. That depends on how we use the word, of course. Jesus was lifted up high and away from their sight...
  12. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Nothing about the end of the world happened. It is not a matter of conflict is is only a matter of belief in what bible prophesy says.
  13. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    You responded originally to this "Right. I remember hearing that that were three heavens.." So the verse needs to be about Him teaching that. So far I do not even see where the topic or definition of heaven is even connected to the topic.
  14. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Ok, refresh our memory here, what verse?
  15. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Right. I remember hearing that that were three heavens. The one where the birds fly, or basically the atmosphere. The one where the stars are. And the one beyond where God is. What is not clear is what any of that has to do with how we are to look up when the things spoken about start to happen?
  16. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    We will learn real well when we get taken up to meet Him. Have you some knowledge to share here about heaven? Or do you just like to spam threads acting like no one knows anything about heaven but you?
  17. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Whatever you think heaven is doesn't matter. The only question is how does that relate to us being caught up into the air to be with Him before the wrath of God. 1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath...
  18. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Still no point whatsoever eh?
  19. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Make your point. What about the heavens, first, second or third? They have what to do with the Rapture? Or topic?
  20. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Is there a big secret? How many heavens do you think you see when you look up?