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    Retrobyter, concerning the gospel of Christ

    Shalom, guysmith. Actually, while you are right about the Messiah's Good News being about the nation Isra'el "being rescued" or "being delivered," Sha'uwl Paulos did NOT teach anything different than the Messiah taught! To the contrary, we have a particular "twist" on the words of Paulos that...
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shalom, Wormwood. Yes, it appears I misspoke suggesting that "your disagreement with me revolves around your struggle in being reoriented with the truth I've presented." There probably ISN'T a struggle in you regarding what you think my "truth" is, from your perspective, and I can see where...
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shalom, Wormwood. With all due respect, that's nonsense. You've "refuted" nothing. Only in your mind have you killed the straw man. "Saved" is LINKED to the concept of justification by God because many in Isra'el are indeed justified by God at the time of the Rescue when Yeshua` returns...
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shalom, guysmith. You're right in part; however, Zechariah 14 is only PART of the prophecy of Yeshua`s return and His rescue of the people in His Land. Zechariah 14 has to do with the rescue of those in Yerushalayim itself. One should NOT discount Zechariah 12, which is also part of this...
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    Giants on the Earth

    Shalom, Floyd. Nonsense. So, Adam, being a "son of God," was an angel, huh? What are you, a Mormon? Ridiculous. The phrase "sons of God" is NEVER talking about angels. Furthermore, there are many instances when the Hebrew word "mal`ak" and the Greek word "aggelos" do not refer to "a...
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    Giants on the Earth

    Shalom, Eric. And, you should also know that all of those photos were hoaxes! The "giants" were not necessarily "all over the earth." They were where they would do the most good as lumberjacks. Sheesh! Give me a break!
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shalom, Wormwood. It sounds like you're doing it, too. "Saved" does NOT mean "justified by God." It means "rescued" or "delivered." It is a common mistake, but once one is aware of the difference, he should work to avoid that mistake in the future. It's hard, I know. It took me a long time to...
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    Please HELP Dan. 2:45

    Shalom, DaDad. You're making mountains out of mole-hills. God did not provide "the sequence Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE." Those were Dani'el's words to King-of-kings N'vukhadnetsar (Nebuchadnezzar). God only gave Dani'el the dream and its interpretation. I have NEVER...
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    The True Israel, He will rule as God

    Shalom, Rocky Wiley. Regarding the fulfillment of Matthew 2:15, it is important that you understand another concept first: Consider Hebrews 7: Hebrews 7:1-17 1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and...
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shalom, guysmith. Sure. I never said that all Isra'el would be justified! I merely said that all Isra'el would be rescued! That IS what "saved" means. What they do with the Messiah after they have met Him will determine whether they live on or not. Most, I believe, will treat Him with the...
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    After a Christian Dies

    Shalom, Eric. I used to put the emphasis on these things, too, but I've learned a few things since then. Some things that one learns require a paradigm shift in one's thinking. We know that the NT (or most of it) was originally written in Aramaic or Hebrew; however, our oldest manuscripts are...
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shabbat shalom, Jun2u. Sorry, bro', but you need to re-think 1 Thessalonians 4:17. The context of this verse never says WHERE we're going to go, being "with the Lord!" Many ASSUME it means we're going to "go to Heaven," but it never says that. It only says that wherever He goes, we go with Him...
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    Our responsibilities later depend on our faithfulness now!

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. Bravo! Well said! That's exactly right! (Now, let's throw the proverbial "monkey wrench" into the works.) What SPECIFICALLY are our responsibilities NOW in which we may be found "faithful" or "trustworthy" that will qualify us for ruling over ten cities? Do you think this...
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    After a Christian Dies

    Shalom, Eric. Sorry, bro', but you have the wrong idea about when and how we get our new bodies. We get our new bodies in the RESURRECTION! The thing you should have picked up on in the above verses from the Resurrection Chapter, 1 Corinthians 15, is that our new bodies are our OLD bodies...
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    Please HELP Dan. 2:45

    Shalom, DaDad. No, I'm suggesting that these lists are not ordered lists! PERIOD! IF there is an "order" implied, it is from the ground up! ALL five of these materials are pulverized by the stone cut out of the cliff without hands. They are pulverized from the feet upward, and they all blow...
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    Please HELP Dan. 2:45

    Shalom, Dadad. I think it is fine to mock such teaching because it is NOT "sound teaching" or "sound doctrine!" Keep the Scriptures; throw out the teacher! I was going back through Dani'el's account of the dream of N'vukhadnetsar and its interpretation, and I believe I've found something that...
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    How close is the Seven Year Tribulation?

    Shalom, DaDad and Floyd. Please, gentlemen. What? Are we like 10 years old? Much of Dani'el HAS been fulfilled in history ... but not all! It's an error to say that ANYTHING is fulfilled "spiritually." When God fulfilled the Scriptures in the life of His Son, Yeshua`, they were all fulfilled...
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shalom, Eric. So, which is it? Is it by fire (the "spirit of burning") or by water ("washed away")? Look, I understand that these are BOTH analogies of purging out the "filth" and the "blood" from Tsiown and Yerushalayim, but what you need to understand is the END RESULT! WHY?! What is the...
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    Retrobyter concerning All Israel???

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. This is what I'm talking about! This statement is SO full of irony and redundancy that it would be comical if it weren't so tragically misunderstood! It's like saying, "Everybody in the burning building will be saved that survive the fire!" :wacko: DUH! "All Isra'el...
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    Millennialism/Amillennialism

    Shalom, Wormwood. Okay. I still believe that you are my brother in the Messiah, but we'll just have to agree to disagree on these several points.