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For those who came up in religious Christianity and who now know that the kingdom of God is within them (not just believing a new doctrine about it, but knowing by experience), we can recall how similar we were to Retro and can be grace to him and cut him some slack. :) It's the same struggle...

Retrobyter: If I read your conversational summary correctly, Jesus returns sometime in the future and brings the literal, physical, concrete kingdom of God with him. Jesus began his public ministry with: Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The...

btw, retrobyter: how does it work in your theory? What's coming? I don't need 800 bible verses. Just conversationally summarize in a paragraph or two what is coming. The rapture happens and we are outta here; then the tribulation happens; then the literal, concrete kingdom of God comes to...

Hi Retrobyter: Perhaps that statement does apply to me. But then again, perhaps, that statement applies to you. Jesus taught us a pretty cool secret at the beginning of Matthew 7. If you sat still and observed mentation and saw how judgments are formed in your mind, you would come to a...

If you look at the parable of the sower (Luke 8)--the parable you are instructed to know so that you can know the other parables(Mark 4:13)--you can see that in Jesus' interpretation of the parable (Luke 8:11-15) he is not speaking about external things, he is speaking about internal things in...

No. It's not an external kingdom out there in the world. 2000 years ago, people were waiting for a messiah to be King on the earth. Today it's the same as many are waiting for a rapture and a second coming and an external King. The kingdom of God is within you. You have to enter into...

Great words that every religionist today should read. The kingdom is within you and if you are looking anywhere else for it, then you are looking for something else. Seriously, more great advice. Instead of working out their salvation (in reality, not just a mental belief); instead of the...

In similar life experiences (facebook friend requests), to react (act again, re-act, do the same thing over and over) with a pre-programmed answer (here's some bible verses, stranger) is a prime example of _____________. A. walking in the spirit. B. being available so that Spirit may respond...

Hi retrobyter, Thanks for responding. As to your interpretation of the passage, why do you also forgo it's literal meaning? My point about this verse is the last two words, "think not". You take this to mean "when one is not expecting Him to come." But that is not what it is saying. Look...

Hi veteran: I question why you did not give the literal interpretation of that passage? Taken literally, that passage speaks of a very beneficial key to one's spiritual walk. Some could stare at that passage for 10 minutes and never see or consider what it is literally saying: they'd just get...

Retrobyter and veteran: Here's a challenge for you. Briefly, in a paragraph or less, give the meaning/interpretation of this phrase: Luke 12:40 ...the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Well, that is a rather charged characterization. Nothing is forced; it's either literal or allegorical. You would probably allow that the passage is either about a physical temple and should be taken literally; or, that it is an allegory. Given that a temple is explicitly given as a metaphor...

Sure, post them if you wish. But, you unwittingly provided the wisdom in this little quote tho, in that you say, "all the way until his death" For most, until death means when the body physically dies at 84 of natural causes. For those with ears to hear, the death is along the lines of I die...

Weber: my statement was designed to provoke a possible epiphany for those who think of eternal life as a post-death reward. Christ is the way, the truth and The Life. Christ is Eternal Life.

Hi daq: Great thread. Remember, in parables and allegory, a few can see it and most can't see it. Also, recognize when triggered by the words of another that cause a reaction in you. That means there's something in your temple that can be cleared out, allowing space for a response of Spirit...

The way I heard it, you either go to heaven for eternity or go to hell for eternity. Sounds like we already have an eternal existence? ====== Eternal Life is more a substance; than it is a span of time or a reward. If you eat Christ's flesh and drink Christ's blood, you have eternal life...

2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. A few words are very interesting in that verse. The word 'study' is unfortunate because it carries the sense of a student doing homework and so we deduce that this...

Have you ever seen: (Mat 16:16) - And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. (Mat 26:63) - tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. (Jhn 6:69) - And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God. (Jhn 11:27) -...

3 minor Selah points: 1. The Word is truth to all that believe--Is not the Word truth, whether one believes or not? 2. law of Moses, etc - what we call the Old Testament --if the law of Moses is the OT, why then does the verse mention the prophets and the psalms? Aren't they part of the OT...

No, we're not. Christ, however.....