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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    But we are not raised a spiritual body when our physical body is resurrected. We are raised a spiritual body when our physical body dies. The natural/physical body returns to the dust it came from, and when it is resurrected, when the last trump sounds it will not be the same as it was sown...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Prove what you allege! If they are not the Old Covenant faithful saints symbolized as 144,000 (remnant) who are they and how can you prove they are who you think they are?
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The 144,000 are the Old Covenant faithful saints who died before the advent of Christ. They are the faithful Church, Israel of Old, the Church in the wilderness before Christ, whom the prophets foretell would come. They are the embodiment of the Church that was, but they are not the complete...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Can you define what you mean by being replaced by a spiritual body? What does or will that body consist/look like? Why would a spiritual body need to inherit a physical, though perfect new earth? I don't believe Scripture teaches that our body shall be replaced by a spiritual body. I...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    That's a good point Amigo! We must be reminded because we are not a pure, sinless body of believers ONLY! We are surrounded both in this world and in the churches on earth by those who are liars and deceivers.
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Maybe I'm not explaining well enough, so I will try again. The spirit or breath of life we receive from God is given eternal life that can never die when we are born again. But our flesh is still mortal, and corruptible. Since neither flesh and blood nor corruption can inherit the Kingdom...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    You better start praying that when you commit sin, and you will (so will I), that you don't suddenly die! Because according to your erroneous doctrine Christ did not redeem you from that sin! What a polluted doctrine, without comfort, or peace! Why is it important for a Christian to repent...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    None of those you posted say CHRISTIANS fall away from THE faith or lose their salvation! You know this or you would be able to answer the question of why God chastens whom He loves, and you cannot! God does not forsake, He chastens whom He loves! Why can you not reconcile this FACT with your...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Scripture ????? More speculation without proof from Scripture??? Christians are not appointed to God's WRATH, but as I said Scripture is filled with verses that speak of us going through great tribulation until the seventh angel sounds.
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    So you show you clearly understand that when a Christian sins, he/she will be chastised by God but not forsaken, but still you continue to argue Christians can lose their salvation??? That makes you not deceived, but rather a deceiver! You need to repent and turn to the truth and stop...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Prove from the Word of God that Christians fall away! I can't help but notice that you haven't answered the question for why God chastens whom He loves? I really don't care what different denominations teach! I care about what sayeth the Scriptures, and can my understanding be reconciled, or...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The ark was sealed! Yes, Noah was present, but safe in the ark while the flood filled the earth. He was not taken from the earth, but kept safe during it. Noah is not in heaven during the great flood that filled the earth. He was on the earth both before, during and after the destruction of...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Confusion comes when we cannot reconcile every verse of Scripture. It comes because we force error and contradiction into God's Holy Word. Perhaps the spirit of darkness you speak of is causing you to be confused??? Do you walk perfectly by the Spirit and never give in to the desires of your...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    NO! When we have been born again we HAVE eternal life in Christ. When we sin we reap CORRECTION from God, because He loves His own and will not allow us to continue in sin. You must reconcile Heb 2:6-7 with your doctrine, or continue to force your contradiction upon the Word of God. Why...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    This is nice opinion, but where is the Scripture to prove what you assume? Are you now perfect, never choosing to sin? It seems you're saying we are in the Lord, oops we sin, we're not in the Lord, we repent, we're in the Lord again, oops we sin again we're not in the Lord etc etc etc ??? Very...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Ephesians 2:3-9 (KJV) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Whoever would teach we can live as the heathens and be saved according to grace through faith, has not experienced being born again!
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    What exactly according to Scripture does "reaping what we sow" mean? Does it speak of eternal loss (lose salvation), or material/physical loss in this life? Have you never read: Hebrews 12:6-7 (KJV) For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Noah came through the flood, he was not taken from the flood, but sustained in the ark through it. For your argument to be true, Noah would not have been on earth when the flood waters came. Noah is a depiction of great tribulation that comes upon this earth, and how Christians are assured...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The Bible doesn't use the term "ethnic", but these 144,000 are said to be of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Why make this distinction between the Israel of Old and the innumerable multitude if speaking of all Christians? It's not uncommon in Scripture to find Israel of old that...