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Ordained and neccesary? Maybe not.. But certainly foretold: Why do the nations protest and the peoples grumble in vain? Kings on earth rise up and princes plot together against the LORD and his anointed: "Let us break their shackles and cast off their chains!" The one enthroned in heaven...

Yes, it is a lie. Whether one speaks of the Incarnation, the Ressurection, or the Eucharist, the Catholic faith most assuredly affirms 'Jesus Christ is come in the flesh' And if you persist in saying otherwise then you sir, are a liar. Pax!

You just answered your own question ;)

That is a lie.

Wow. Just wow...

built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone Simon, youre name is Rock and on this rock Ill build my church... You set up a false dichotemy of the Rock being either Jesus or Peter. In doing this Jesus forever unites Peter with Himself...

Ah, when tv and other media were still wholesome,,,

Very Catholic of you... Peace!

Another question... Which is better ... To serve out of a sense of fear and duty... Or to speak of love but be disobedient? Theres scripture that speaks of the one whi says no but then does and the one who says yes but doesnt... Cant quite place it though... Peace brother!

You mean like this?: Do not work for food that perishes but for the food that endures for eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him the Father, God, has set his seal."

Ignatius learned these things directly from the apostles, was made bishop of the Church in Syria, commended by Polycarp, martyred for the Faith, and not one apostolic church disagrees with his teachings on the Eucharist... You want to see the 'biblical Church'? You'll find it in Ignatius'...

Ah, now we're getting somewhere, because Ignatius gives a very clear picture of the role of the bishop, the Eucharist, and many other things... Now you mention Constantine... Are you suggesting that it is after the Council of Nicea that the Church in Rome apostized, or before? Do you...

And HE had only good things to say to the Church in Smyrna! Polycarp was the bishop of Smyrna and had this to say about Ignatius of Antioch: The Epistles of Ignatius written by him to us, and all the rest [of his Epistles] which we have by us, we have sent to you, as you requested. They are...

Indeed. And authority was taken from them and given to the apostles, who in turn gave it to the bishops.... And Jesus said ' the gates of hell would not prevail ' against His Church, so that authority remains with the majesterium of the Church today... Peace!

Wrong again; Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week when we gathered to break bread, Paul spoke to them because he was going to leave on the next day, and he kept on speaking until midnight But nice diversion... You still have not even attempted to show the Church that Jesus established...

Actually you have not. To do so you would have to identify the Church in 100 AD , 200 AD , 300 AD... That you cannot even attempt to do so, in light of the evedince of Orthodox, Catholic teaching by the ECF's I can only conclude that things like the Eucharist truly being the body and blood of...

And history shows this to be the Catholic Church... You have yet to even attempt to show that it was otherwise... Some of its bishops included Clement, Polycarp, Ignatus, Cyprian to name just a few... Do you acknowledge these as bishops and heroes of the Faith? Pax!

Be willing to do this: For the sake of not only your friends, but for those who would do this to you... Pax!

More children have been killed through 'legal' abortion in America than all the people killed in ww1 . Do we think God does not see us sacrificing our children to the gods of money and convienience? Woe to western 'civilization' . its judgement is at hand..

All christians should deplore the treatment of the Jews by the Nazis... This is anti-semetic hate speech and has no place on this board or anywhere in a civilized society.. This post has been reported.