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  1. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    That isn't what the passages I cited teach. John's Gospel mentions SEVERAL things that are necessary for eternal life--not just one. You believe one snippet of that Gospel, I prefer to believe it all.
  2. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    So, you do not agree that eternal life is repaid doers of good according to the passages I cited? What DO those passages say?
  3. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    That very same book ALSO teaches "if you know these things, blessed are you if you do them" (you are NOT "blessed" if you DON'T), and "I know the command of God is eternal life, so, I speak and do as I'm told", and "we must work the works of Him Who sent me" and "the Father works and I work" and...
  4. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    So, which "translation" of Galatians 6:6-10, or Romans 2:5-16, or any of the other verses I cited, DOES NOT teach that eternal life will be repaid doers of good?
  5. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Don't you agree that James 2 is simply calling the Christians to repentance--since he calls them "adulteresses against God", affirming that his audience is already "married" to God (ie, they are believers) in James 4?
  6. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    So, are you saying you agree with those verses I raised--ie, that eternal life is repaid doers of good?
  7. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    They asked, "How may WE work the works of God?" Jesus answers, "'God's works' He would have YOU to do is for YOU to believe in Me."
  8. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    You actually never addressed the verses which I raised, which teach, clearly, men will be repaid eternal life, not just ambiguous "rewards", for doing good--and, if they don't do good, they're storing up wrath for themselves, instead, and will die and not live. I apologize--I am a simple person...
  9. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    So, am I wrong for quoting Scripture proving eternal life will be repaid doers of good?
  10. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    I agree--still, it irks me when people pass their lies off as if it were Biblical truth. That's why I'm addressing the issue. Also, Paul says we are to present our members to God as instrument of righteousness, and that if we obey sin we will be slaves of sin, so, apparently, there is still...
  11. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    So, you actually AGREE that only doers of good will be repaid eternal life? OK, we're on the same page!
  12. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    I thought that was what I was doing by trusting His Word.
  13. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Romans 8:12,13 says Christians will not live (not be repaid eternal life for good deeds) but die if you walk after the flesh instead of mortifying the seeds of flesh by the Spirit--Romans 2 warns the Jewish believers in the Roman Church they're storing up wrath for themselves.
  14. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    What you are doing, deceptively (intentionally or not), is creating a distinction between the words "reward" and "eternal life" that simply doesn't exist in Scripture: eternal life is the reward He repays the doers of good according to the passages of Scripture I shared.
  15. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Sorry, Scripture teaches me eternal life is repaid doers of good, and nothing you've said has changed anything. Your tradition is anti-Biblical as far as I can tell.
  16. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    When I read Scripture, I don't find that (though I know which verse you've been taught to shoehorn in, here); I find that men are repaid eternal life, not mere "rewards", in return for their doing good deeds. Sir, are you asking me to just ignore all of these Scriptures, and believe in you...
  17. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    In a sense, I agree, but, in another sense, the fact that eternal life is (despite the fact that we do already have it (1 Jn 5)) a harvest reaped in due time only by those who do good deeds by God's Grace should also be considered, not dismissed as if it fitted neatly. We should challenge our...
  18. GracePeace

    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Same book says "if you know these things, blessed are you if you do them", and "I know the command of God is eternal life, so, I speak and do as I'm told", and "we must work the works of Him Who sent me" and "the Father works and I work" and "no greater love has anyone than to lay his life down...
  19. GracePeace

    What Old Covenant Laws are the New Covenant believer to obey?

    2 Timothy 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
  20. GracePeace

    What Old Covenant Laws are the New Covenant believer to obey?

    @Arthur81 You "forgot" to answer a previous post where your arguments were dismantled on your favorite topic you are attempting to confuse people about. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/homosexuality-wrong-or-right.58195/page-88#post-1744265