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    The final harvest?

    How can the first resurrection be completed before the thousand years begins, when the text plainly states "they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"? And it also says there are others who were not martyred for their faith who shall also reign with Christ a thousand years??? "Blessed...
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    The final harvest?

    Tim, all who were physically resurrected before the cross and resurrection are not the physically dead in the graves who shall be resurrected in an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds. Those physically resurrected before the first advent of Christ did not have part in the first...
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    The final harvest?

    This is right Tim, except when you say "the sons of God were created soul, body and spirit." All mankind is created with a body and spirit and together we are ALL while alive "living souls." Yes, God created man in His image, and in the beginning, before the fall, God called His creation "very...
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    The final harvest?

    Heaven is the abode of God, and His angels. It is a spiritual habitation not a physical one. That's why Paul writes that flesh & blood, nor corruption may enter there. Man only has access to heaven with life through his/her eternal spirit alive through the power of the Spirit in us. I really...
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    The final harvest?

    Tim, you're confusing the hour "NOW IS" with the hour that is coming. The hour that now is when spiritually dead, physically alive people hear the Gospel, and by grace through faith believe Christ. Through believing Christ those who were spiritually dead "in trespasses and sins" have become...
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    The final harvest?

    I'm glad to hear you say this. Perhaps it was your wording, or maybe my misunderstanding you, but it appeared you were saying that there would still be elect ethnic Jews who would be saved after the fullness of the Gentiles have come in. That made it appear to me that you believed there would...
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    The final harvest?

    Yes, I'm familiar with the verses. Until "the fullness of the Gentiles has come in", not 'until the partial hardening is lifted'. Paul never says the partial hardening will be lifted after the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. Paul writes they were cut off through unbelief, but if they do...
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    The final harvest?

    What hour started with Lazarus? You deny the plain writing from Scripture that tells us an hour is coming when ALL that are in the graves shall be physically resurrected. What you need to reconcile is when did those who lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years begin? Would you agree that...
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    The final harvest?

    In this I have to ask, where does Scripture say the partial hardening on Israel, the elect ethnic Jews shall be removed after the full number of Gentiles have been saved? Would you not agree that all Israel, including elect ethnic Jews shall be saved during this Gospel age of grace. And that...
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    The final harvest?

    If we take the position that because John writes 'resurrection' twice, it proves two separate resurrections, then we also need to prove "the hour" when all the graves are opened is two separate hours, separated by ONE thousand years. John 5:28-29 (KJV) Marvel not at this: for the hour is...
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    The final harvest?

    It is possible that the resurrection of saints from the graves after the resurrection of Christ was physical. But I cannot agree with this being a depiction of a physical resurrection because that cannot be reconciled with the words Christ spoke in Jo 5:28-29. So there is not forced...
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    The final harvest?

    No, actually Tim what I said is that there will not be a physical immortal & incorruptible resurrection until TIME, symbolize a thousand years has ended. Since we are still currently living in TIME, it is apparent that a thousand years of symbolic time continues. No, Paul did not claim there...
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    The final harvest?

    You may not like what I've said regarding 2Cor 5:1, but you need to look again if you think I've not addressed your misunderstanding of the verse in context. If Mt 27:51-53 establishes a physical resurrection, how do you reconcile that opinion with John 5:28-29? Lazarus was indeed physically...
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    The final harvest?

    Tim, you're really going to have to bring biblical proof to your opinions OR understand your OPINIONS are altogether without any merit! How many times must you be shown verses from Scripture that assures there will NOT be a physical resurrection of the dead before an hour coming when the last...
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    The final harvest?

    The Church as She exists on earth will always be both carnal and righteous together. Why do you think there are so many warnings in Scripture telling us that in this world both wheat and tare, saved and unsaved, righteous and unrighteous shall grow together until the end of this world has come...
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    The final harvest?

    Don't know about you Tim, for God alone knows our hearts, but I am and have been eternally alive with Christ through His Spirit in me from the moment I became saved. But I shall not live and reign with Christ in immortal & incorruptible flesh before an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds...
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    The final harvest?

    Exactly! There is a spiritual body of believers and there is a natural/physical body of believers! In this life or as John writes TIME, symbolized a thousand years, we have lived and shall live and have reigned and shall reign with Christ in natural physical body of believers, and then when we...
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    The final harvest?

    Not only sons of God have body + spirit and are "living souls. Every human, and in fact every, living breathing creature upon the face of the earth has body + spirit and is a "living soul." In addition to having a natural spirit that gives our body natural physical life, sons of God also have...
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    The final harvest?

    Is that what you think Paul points out in 2Cor 5:1? Why would Paul point out the soul needs to put on a body, when the living body with spirit is already a living soul? You've said the exact same thing, so why would you think Paul tells us the soul needs a body? What Paul is telling us in...
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    The final harvest?

    Tim, I am not saying the resurrected body we shall receive in an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds will not be physical. I'm trying to help you to understand that when our natural, physical body dies, the only part of man that has been born again that continues to have life is our...