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  1. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shabbat shalom, daq. Sorry, dude. Guess I struck a nerve, eh? Yeah, that's the "meshuggah" I meant. Just the same, I asked it in the form of a question. All you had to do is say, "No." That was no "character assassination." And, even if I had, that would NOT be "hatred" or "murder." Get a...
  2. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, daq. <Sigh.> It's okay. I know I have no authority in your life, and you don't know me from Adam. You'll just never get it (at least, from me) until the ONE who has the Authority tells you face to face! I'm pretty sure that you'll have no trouble believing Him. Frankly, no, the letters...
  3. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, daq. (My words and answers will be in purple since your verses are in blue.) Shalom, In-Christ. I'm sorry, but it is WRONG to take Mark 4:2, 34 as carte blanche to mean that EVERYTHING in the Bible is a parable, just because "God is the AUTHOR of the Bible!" That is NOT what it says nor...
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    No continuing city?

    Shalom, daq, and, dragonfly, "very clear explanation?" Hardly. STICK TO THE CONTEXT!!! First and foremost, you need to stick to the context when an author is presenting an allegory and quit sending feelers out throughout the Bible for "look-alikes" that you FEEL are related! They are NOT...
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    Last Day

    Shalom, veteran. I really like much of what you say and was agreeing with your treatment of guestman's JW error, but you really need to quit merging the fifth and sixth trumpet judgments as though they were the same creature. THEY ARE NOT!! There are significant differences between the two, and...
  6. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, daq. Not everything written in the Bible is an allegory! That's your biggest error! You turn EVERYTHING into an allegory! The allegorical method of interpretation is NOT a good method of interpreting the Bible! The best method is the grammatical, historical method of interpretation...
  7. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, David. Do I hear a "Not fair!" in there?
  8. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, Rex. Not at all, brother. I did not take offense. I enjoy our little disagreements! _____ Shalom, Arnie. That says it all, doesn't it? It even tells you to whom the name "Isra'el" is referring!
  9. Retrobyter

    No continuing city?

    Shalom, dragonfly. Wouldn't it be wise to know what one is talking about before making any assumptions? What do the words in the Greek mean? Here's the verse in the Greek, and the Greek words are PREGNANT with meaning! Hebrews 13:14 14 ou gar echomen hoode menousan polin alla teen mellousan...
  10. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, David. You're missing the very point that the Apostle (Sent-one) PAUL was making in the VERY VERSES you just quoted! Allow me to walk you through it: Ephesians 2:11-22 11 Wherefore remember, / THEREFORE, KEEP THIS IN MIND: that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, / You who...
  11. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, daq. I am TOTALLY in agreement with you regarding this "straw man" argument used by the anti-Torah crowd. Daq is right, friends, because the Torah ONLY convinces us of SIN! It's the NEGATIVE side of the argument! The Torah CANNOT be perfectly kept; therefore, all the commandments of the...
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    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, dragonfly. Sure, I know that. The words in Hebrew are "ceefer k-riytuwt" (pronounced "say-FEHR kuh-ree-TOOT"), but they are NOT found in Hoshea`s prophecy. And, while they might be found of the northern Kingdom of Isra'el in Yirmeyahu's prophecy (Jeremiah 3:8), they are NOT found for...
  13. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, Arnie. Don't fall for the lies that someone's been telling you. God did NOT "divorce Isra'el!" Are you meshuggah?! Re-read the story of Howsheea`; he didn't divorce Gomer, either! She WALKED AWAY! She LEFT HIM! That's a HUGE difference! It's a SEPARATION, NOT a DIVORCE! Hosea 3:1-5 1...
  14. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, Dodo_David. Fooey. Only a city slicker would think that olives grow on a vine!
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    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, daq. No, sir. You can't just take a bunch of verses that use the same word or a group of words from similar sources and dump them all together into some pot and expect to draw from the pot a coherent doctrine or teaching on that group of words! This is NOT Alchemy 101! Every name has a...
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    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, dragonfly. Not forgetting, discounting. I do not believe that He was "totally cut off from the tree in death." To the contrary, His death provided the means by which the New Covenant WITH ISRA'EL and WITH Y'HUDAH could be instated! It was still HIS body that was raised from the dead...
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    7,000 Year Theory

    Shalom, Chayaal Meshuwchrar Meshuggah. First, let's get something straight right away. I didn't SAY that the CJB was a "more accurate translation than the KJV Bible," nor was I saying that the NIV was better than the KJV. I was saying that the CJB is an easier READ, LIKE the NIV. Why do you...
  18. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, Daq. Have you never read... Isaiah 11:1-7 1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch (Hebrew: v-neetser) shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and...
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    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shalom, dragonfly. Strong's says... OT:3478 Yisra'el (yis-raw-ale'); from OT:8280 and OT:410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: -Israel. OT:8280 sarah (saw-raw'); a primitive root; to prevail: KJV - have power (as a prince)...
  20. Retrobyter

    This is a nice and always forgotten parable

    Shalom, JB_. Well said. That is PRECISELY correct. The text simply means that we are not even "break-even" slaves. How is ANYONE to impress or surprise a PERFECT GOD?! NO ONE can go beyond and "give him 110%," as the sports people like to say. We can't even give Him the 100% that He deserves...