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  1. Retrobyter

    The coming Jewish revival

    Shalom, veteran. I think that we're mostly on the same page with all this, except you seem to see that group of "unbelieving children of the Kingdom" as permanently locked out for the duration of the Millennium. I believe it is much more flexible than that. Furthermore, I don't think the group...
  2. Retrobyter

    The coming Jewish revival

    Shabbat shalom, veteran. I was almost finding myself agreeing with you ... for a while. All of His believers, whether Jews, Isra'elites, or Gentiles, will indeed be "gathered together" to Him in Yerushalayim, Yisra'el, during the Millennium, and that is the very definition of "church": a...
  3. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shabbat shalom, veteran. LOL! "Jealous?" Of YOUR knowledge? I don't think so. There are too many inconsistencies in your schema, and right from the git-go, too! I mean, just look at your interpretation of Matthew 24! That says it all. No, it does no damage to believe that God has reserved some...
  4. Retrobyter

    STARS

    Shabbat shalom, afaithfulone4u. Why do all the verses about "stars" have to mean something else? Why can't they be about STARS? Granted, some of them such as in Revelation 6-9 may actually be talking about "shooting stars" or "falling stars" that we call meteors and meteorites today, but they...
  5. Retrobyter

    The proper and harmonious interpretation of Romans 11:25 [split from another topic]

    Shabbat shalom, veteran. I've got a better idea: Those who THINK they know should STOP PRETENDING! Ecclesiastes 3:11 11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the...
  6. Retrobyter

    The coming Jewish revival

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. Yes, emphatically so! The ONLY difference is that I prefer to call Him "Yeshua` haMashiach" or "Yeshua` the Messiah," His given name, because of how some of the Gentile "Christians" who were not mature believers or were not true believers have used the name "Jesus Christ"...
  7. Retrobyter

    The coming Jewish revival

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. In a word, BALONEY! "Ethnic cleansing." BAH! Is He going to "ethnically cleanse" the Christians, too?! You don't know what you're talking about and you're not reading the Scripture that you quote IN CONTEXT! SHAME ON YOU! Y'know, God is NOT going to "ethnically cleanse"...
  8. Retrobyter

    The coming Jewish revival

    Shalom, veteran and Eric. Ever hear the parable of the blind men trying to describe an elephant? That's how YOU TWO are acting! BOTH of you are speaking from ignorance, neither one having seen the truth: Check the parable out at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant/. You...
  9. Retrobyter

    Why Should the Church Endure the Great Trib?

    You've missed Yeshua`s point: The eclipses of the sun and the moon happen ALL THE TIME! So, what would distinguish THIS time as the SIGN OF HIS COMING? I won't say anymore on it.
  10. Retrobyter

    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Shalom, John. Please pay attention to what I said. I said, "They may not have OFFICIAL records of being from a particular tribe of Isra'el, but their surname identifies them as coming from that tribe." Stick to the Scriptures. Look at Ezra's record: Ezra 1:1-8 1 Now in the first year of...
  11. Retrobyter

    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Shalom, John. Well, sir, that's not right. I can appreciate your opinion, but the truth is that while 12,000 are of the tribe of Y'hudah (Judah) and are therefore "Jews," the other 132,000 are of other tribes of Isra'el, not just "Christians," which primarily consist of Goyim (Gentiles). This...
  12. Retrobyter

    He sets himself up

    Shalom, veteran. I liked your statement, "One cannot hold to one without being true to the other." THAT statement is right on the money! I'm sure YOU meant it reversed, but ironically, God turned your words around! And, here, you're EXACTLY correct! One cannot hold to Christ without being true...
  13. Retrobyter

    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. No, I suspect that you don't know the first thing about the "gospel of Jesus" or "Yeshua`s good news." What HE heralded was the "good news about the Kingdom," not the "death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ." Take a good, honest look at Mark 1:14-15: Mark...
  14. Retrobyter

    Warning to mid and post tribulation rapture believers!

    Shabbat shalom, John S. So I see! I used to be a Pre-Tribber way back in my past, and I keep finding me asking myself, "Was I that bad, too?!" I would have LIKED to think I was "sticking to the Scriptures" at the time, but I truly wonder now. And, I'm with you on this statement you made to...
  15. Retrobyter

    Warning to mid and post tribulation rapture believers!

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. NO, SIR! That is NOT RIGHT! Look above in what you have repeated! The purple sections are SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN TO AND ABOUT YIRMEYAHU (JEREMIAH) HIMSELF! They are the nations to which Yirmeyahu was sent! He was to deliver that message TO THEM PERSONALLY!
  16. Retrobyter

    Warning to mid and post tribulation rapture believers!

    _____ Shalom, Trumpeter. And, what are YOU doing ENCOURAGING this nonsense?! If you are really speaking for God, you should have called Eric on this right at the first! My guess is that YOU don't know any better, either!
  17. Retrobyter

    Warning to mid and post tribulation rapture believers!

    Shalom, Eric. Have you ever heard that the Hebrew word "erets," spelled "alef-reish-tsadday," means "the LAND?" It often means "THE Land (of Isra'el)" in the Scriptures. It's the word you see here translated as "earth." I also find it EXTREMELY UPSETTING to hear you quote from Jeremiah! You...
  18. Retrobyter

    Why Should the Church Endure the Great Trib?

    Shalom, Lamad. (My words are going to be in the color FIRE BRICK in attempts to answer some of your questions. I reserve GREEN for Scripture and RED for the words of our Lord and BLUE for all other quotations.) I hope this has helped you to understand a different viewpoint of these trumpets...
  19. Retrobyter

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Shalom, Purity. Yes, I DO believe that "God is going to send a literal fire and consume the whole earth and the heavens also," particularly since the word "heavens" means the "SKIES" or the "ATMOSPHERE" around this planet. Yes, I DO believe that "when God is called a consuming fire" He is...
  20. Retrobyter

    So....The New Earth and Heaven

    Shalom, Eric. That is why I make a distinction between the future Millennium (Rev. 20) and the future Eternal State (Rev. 21-22). I believe that the Temple that is described in Ezekiel 40-48 will be constructed during the Millennium, the first 1000 years of the Messiah's rulership. The Eternal...