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    Harmonizing most rapture views

    Shalom, Justin. Sure! That's what I've been saying. However, it is important to understand that PART of the verses of the Olivet Discourse were for the first century and PART of the verses were for the present and our future. We should not try to make MOST of the verses take on a double role. A...
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    Harmonizing most rapture views

    Shalom, Justin and John. Actually, there IS, when you read the Messiah's response in Matthew 24-25, Mark 13, and Luke 21 correctly. These are just three different views of the same event. So, when Yeshua` talks about the "abomination of the desolation," which was caused by the "desolation"...
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    Harmonizing most rapture views

    Shalom, Justin. I am definitely NONE OF THE ABOVE! NONE of the rapture positions make allowances for a 2000-year Tribulation!
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    He sets himself up

    Shalom, daq ol' buddy! Y'know, I really don't have a problem with that. See, I understand that the verse could be taken either way, but what good is a picture of a cake without the cake itself to eat? Oh, one might capture the moment when it looked the best it could be, but that's where the old...
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    He sets himself up

    Shalom, BLACK SHEEP. You're jumping to a different topic, but I can understand having something nag at your mind and needing to spout, voicing the silent question (in this case), "Where is the proof that there will be a rebuilt Temple?" It's in the SAME VERSE that Yeshua` quoted in Matthew...
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    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Shalom, Rocky Wiley. Right off the bat, we have a problem. 1. Yeshua` did NOT say that He came to fulfill all that was written about Him. That is a fallacy of your thinking. With a starting premise such as that, you are BOUND to have problems later in your reasoning. 2. When Yeshua` told his...
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    He sets himself up

    Shalom, BLACK SHEEP. Ri-i-ight... but there IS a gap. It's in the desolation itself! Yeshua` (Jesus) put it there in Matthew 23:38, and according to Him, it will continue until the Jews can say, "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the LORD," or in Hebrew, "Baruwkh haba' b'shem YHWH." This...
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    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Shalom, veteran. As much as you've said here, I'm totally in agreement with you.
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    He sets himself up

    Shalom, guysmith. I should have added to Post #14 above spelling out that Matthew 23:2-37 are the "overspreading of abominations" and verse 38 is Yeshua` making them "desolate", thus fulfilling Dani'el 9:27c. Shalom, Eric. What I said to guysmith above is your answer, too. Don't get stuck in...
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    The coming Jewish revival

    Shalom, Eric. NO! That's not right! Are you meshuggah (crazy)?! Neither the LORD (YHWH or God the Father) nor the Lord (Yeshua` or Jesus the Messiah) "will kill all the nonbelieving Jews before the kingdom age"! How NUTS is that?! It is GOD who makes one "holy" by justifying him in spite of...
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    See the permanent solar eclipse Over Israel before Armageddon

    Shalom, daq. No, I had just said,... To which you replied,... So, it seemed that I struck a nerve, because you FREQUENTLY arrest the Scriptures to say whatever you want them to say! Shalom, again, daq. Also, it's not being a dreamer to believe what is written about the Messiah. He WILL...
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    The Sixth Seal Judgment

    Shalom, Eric. Do you always go looking for Scriptures that SOUND like they are talking about the same thing without investigating the passages? Do you always choose Scriptures that SEEM to be supporting your premise? That's backward, y'know. You should be letting the Scriptures speak to YOU...
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    He sets himself up

    Shalom, guysmith. I like what you did with the substitutions, but you used an opinion-slanted version for the substitution. Let's try a version we can trust: Daniel 9:27 27 And Christ shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week Christ shall cause the...
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    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Shabbat shalom, Eric. As a person who used to believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, I sympathize with your confusion. Please allow me to reason with you on this point. First, in order to understand that the "he that letteth" who will be "taken out of the way" is NOT the Holy Spirit, let's...
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    See the permanent solar eclipse Over Israel before Armageddon

    Shalom, Eric. You're failing to understand what an "orbit" is. Costello was talking to Abbott one day and said, "Hey, Abbott; I'm having a TERRIBLE day!" Abbott said, "Oh, really? Tell me about it." Costello said, "Yes, I'm having a TERRIBLE day; I woke up on the wrong side of the bed ... and...
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    See the permanent solar eclipse Over Israel before Armageddon

    Shalom, daq. Hmmm.... I shot a scatter gun into the bushes. Did I just hear someone cry, "Yelp"?
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    The coming Jewish revival

    Shalom, Eric. I understand your heart on the issue of the Jewish people and I believe it is commendable. The only thing I would add is that they are ALREADY beginning to "call on His Name" and the tide is turning! Take heart! Isra'elis CAN be won to their Messiah! Isaiah 1:18 18 Come now...
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    See the permanent solar eclipse Over Israel before Armageddon

    Shalom, Eric E Stahl. First of all, there is NO indication in ANY Scripture ANYWHERE in the Bible that the New Jerusalem will be revolving around the earth during the Millennium. The New Jerusalem doesn't show up until it descends from God "out of the sky" to the NEW Earth after the Millennium...
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    He sets himself up

    Shalom, guysmith. Guy, the "he" in 2 Thessalonians 2:4, the "man of sin" or the "lawless one" or the "man who separates himself from Torah," is NOT the same one as the "he" in Dani'el 9:27. The "he" in Dani'el 9:27 refers back to the "Messiah" in verse 26. It's really quite simple; the "he"...