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They are. He comes with His saints and angels. You see, the souls who were beheaded in heaven do not sit around heaven with no heads forever! Just like the Lamb that was slain is not lying in a tomb in heaven. That just tells us something about them. The dead are raised after the thousand...

Ah, the no true Scotsman fallacy. Greece you think was not really impacted by the gospel because only a select few people in your mind were true believers. Hmmm

If Greece has oodles of Christian churches over the ages, and only recently even got the first mosque, that seems to indicate a powerful presence of Christian influence, no? That means they were affected by Christians.

So your point is that the abomination of desolation is a person, not an idol. I have heard that opinion. Try to remember it is just opinion.

? I hear the first mosque in Greece was being built or opened just a few months ago. It does seem that Greece was quite impacted by the gospel.

The end of the world is not really a bible phrase. The last days, at the time of the end, in those days, etc are bible phrases. We were in the last days in Peter's day. I just posted this above, and it covers the issue.. " This is one reason I am exploring the possibility that there are three...

This is one reason I am exploring the possibility that there are three groups of those events. 1) Quakes, wars, pestilences etc before the last seven years. 2) These same sort of signs together just prior to and marking the start of the last seven years (beginning of sorrows) 3) The same sort...

So there is a seven-year period and the last 3 1/2 years of this are what is known as the great tribulation. Maybe we could call the seven years the tribulation, and the last part the Great Tribulation?

Events, not times. There are events before the time of sorrows as well as events during that time. Many are the same events...famines etc. It seems that there are events that mark the start of the time of trouble. It doesn't matter if they are the same events that happened before. In the...

Yes I do know Dan 9. The words are sealed until we reach the end. The actual Great Tribulation is 3 1/2 years.

He disposes of their bodies at the very end when He comes back and defeats them. We come back with Him.

If the quake is one of the signs of the very end, then it won't wake believers up...they will be gone. So it depends on what quake you are talking about. For example, the quake in the very end that kills thousands near Jerusalem I think it was, will be long after the Rapture. No. There are...

Simple. The early church had persecutions. Others in history did also. Those were before the final time of tribulation. There will also be persecutions IN the final seven years! THOSE are after the period starts. They are not interchangeable, only spaced out. some before and some during. The...

The actual great tribulation is only in that seven-year period of the very end. The other wars and earthquakes and famines and etc etc that happened all prepared the world for this time. However, the labor pains only start when the 'baby' of the kingdom is coming.

We all will find out I guess when we are in it. But it seems that this recent pestilence has affected us all and the whole world. So I have to think that maybe it could be something related to that final time. If it is the sequence spoken of in Luke and Matthew that kicks off the beginning of...

OK. But I think the great signs will be absolutely unheard of and beyond belief almost. Not something we read on page 14 of a newspaper.

Well, in Luke and Matthew I see they are the same except earthquakes are also mentioned in Matthew.

What is it you think the day of the Lord is? A day? A period? I am interested in knowing the times we are living in. If the beginning of sorrows or the great tribulation is marked by several signs then it seems wise to be aware of this. We want to be ready, and not asleep. Well, the signs do...

OK. Fair enough. That would mean earthquakes as well as great signs in the heavens if this also was referring to the start of the very end period. Of course, there were earthquakes and etc before also. But the ones that kick off the time of tribulation, also known as labor pains (sorrows) are of...

In the verses before the first seal was opened the scene is in heaven. 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth I have not noticed that believers are ruling the world now. In 1798 (or any other time) I have not seen every person and animal on earth...