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  1. quietthinker

    Our Hope for the Future

    If you need no excuse then why do you make it? Here's your excuse Keraz!...ie, 'I must be right because I am 'abused' and my interpretation of the prophecies are rejected just like the Prophets were'. C'mon man, anybody, even without any theological understanding can see you are using the...
  2. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    We learn to love him as we see (emotion/ understanding) how much we are loved. Doing is wonderful, however doing is a response to seeing....not the other way around. You do not learn to love someone by all the doings in the World. The various 'doings' or 'should's' is the focus of the Pagan...
  3. quietthinker

    Our Hope for the Future

    Your excuse is the same excuse every false prophet used with the unquestioning assumption they are genuine prophets. Its subjectivity testifies to it. Regards refutation, It is the risen Jesus who gives a perspective that refutes the OT assumptions. 'you have heard said.....but I say unto...
  4. quietthinker

    Our Hope for the Future

    Your short sightedness and your refusal to see the relevance of the of the Gospel in these scriptures, Keraz, in my view is the same recalcitrance the Jews insisted on when they crucified their Messiah.
  5. quietthinker

    you can lose your salvation but remember you never be unforgivable if you are on the path of goodness

    Could 'the needed formula for salvation' be our personal appropriation of Gods forgiveness to ourselves? ie, the return of the prodigal son to his home? The Father's acceptance/ forgiveness was long in place before the prodigal returned home......he(the Father) kept an eye on the distance in...
  6. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    Men looove to tell others what they should do. It makes them feel authoritative. They will use any pretext to achieve that end.....particularly that of using scripture to underpin and judge others. When a joke is told and all laugh, the one telling the joke gets glory (in their own...
  7. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    Please explain your insights
  8. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    Just say what you want to say without the need for a set up :)
  9. quietthinker

    you can lose your salvation but remember you never be unforgivable if you are on the path of goodness

    I don't think it's irrelevant at all Ronald, in fact its pertinence will threaten some views of what Jesus' death was, however, take courage and imagine if no one believed....what would you think Jesus have died for.
  10. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    what are you wanting to say f2f?
  11. quietthinker

    Friendly Bible Study - participants must agree to Nicene Creed.

    Friendly Bible Study - participants must agree to Nicene Creed. Ahhhhh, that word 'must' ! Do we have concealed coercion behind the word 'Friendly'
  12. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    I guess according to you I should, should, should.....do lots of things. Isn't 'should' as far as others are concerned, the favourite word of all who seek control?
  13. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    I think you live in your imaginary world f2f. You ask me for a scripture as if the scripture is definitive re an answer, then when it is given you twist it to support whatever you imagine.....then you pretend you have the knowledge to unlock Revelation and make the judgement that if one doesn't...
  14. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    I guess you hope I will do lots of things f2f....sorry to disappoint you. The text is specific....'his angels with him'
  15. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    Revelation 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
  16. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    All the religions are based on appeasement in some form. Either sacrifices (blood or otherwise) or good works. Even the Hebrew sanctuary service was interpreted that way. In fact it is so endemic that it is assumed that the more blood offered the happier God(s) will be. We can read the accounts...
  17. quietthinker

    you can lose your salvation but remember you never be unforgivable if you are on the path of goodness

    Didn't Jesus nail their sins to the cross 2000 yrs ago. Isn't it a forgone conclusion according to what has transpired that they are forgiven. They just don't know it, therefore they can't believe it.....but you can bring them the Good News.
  18. quietthinker

    What is the basis for the unbeliever's condemnation?

    Consider it like this Bruce as an example, a man enslaved and familiar with his surroundings is set free by the higher authorities but he hasn't heard of it. The message of his freedom hasn't reached him yet....but soon it will, when it does he is in a position to make choices. Will he leave the...