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  1. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I am neither a Catholic nor Protestant, so I don't have a personal dog in this particular disagreement here. Still, I would say that this particular mindset is not a productive one: simply because a person in Catholic does not mean that they automatically have more or less faith than a...
  2. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    Just to be obstinate :P --- There is technically a third option: both could be right and they are using different words to talk past each other, or talking about different aspects of the same answer. In Protestantism with a "sola scriptura" foundation, it really does come down to that...
  3. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    Our love of God is a gift from Him, written on each man's willing heart. It doesn't come from men, but of God. Likewise the little understanding we have of Him as well- It doesn't come from men, but is a gift from God. Therefore, I don't feel comfortable with any analogies wherein "man...
  4. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    TOTALLY agreed. Salvation is not based on our smarts to pass a theology test, but rather our hearts.
  5. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    I'm sorry that you've been treated so badly by other Christians. It is a shame when people feel to need to "defend" their positions through personal attacks and/or hypocrisy. Such is not Christ's ways. For what it's worth: this site does not require anyone to embrace Creedal Trinitarian...
  6. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Not really. I have made no effort to change your faith-- I fully acknowledge that you are Catholic, and have made (and will make) zero effort to change that or recruit you.
  7. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Because I'm trying to make that point to you: Christ didn't force. And neither should we. We need to follow His example, and acknowledge that other people have their choices, even when the choices they make are awful. That acknowledgement is part of loving that person. Trying to force them...
  8. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    You didn't listen to a thing I said. Mary, Christ didn't force people to listen to His Truth. At points He kept His mouth shut. And He always acknowledged that people had made their choices to listen or not. I do likewise. Mary, I haven't once prosylitzed at you.
  9. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Nonsense. Christ never forced anyone to sit down and accept the Gospel. He acknowledge that many would reject Him. And still loved them and let them make their choices, even if the were poor ones.
  10. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Exactly. I respect your ability to study things out and make your choices (even if I completely disagree with them). I have zero interest in trying to impose my will upon you: your choices are yours. And I also acknowledge that it is God that testifies of Truth to people, and not me (or any...
  11. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I have made (and will make) zero effort to convince you to be anything but Catholic. Now, when you ask me repeatedly int-blank what I think of Catholicism, I will answer. That is simply me answering your repeated question. Again, I 100% respect your choice to be Catholic and have made (and...
  12. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    When you point-blank ask and push the matter repeatedly, that's me simply answering your repeated question. Again, I'm not interested in proselytizing and am not trying to convince you to be anything but Catholic. And yes, in your own Catholic beliefs and post here you've stated how Christ...
  13. J

    Children Nativity Success!

    YEAH!!!! So glad to hear it!
  14. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Mary, I have never tried to convince you to be anything but Catholic. I only give my opinion on Catholic beliefs when you press the matter. Likewise I do not try to convince anyone else on here to be anything but their respective belief groups. I have zero interest in prosylizing (giving or...
  15. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I routinely encounter people who blantenly twist scripture, tell lies about what I believe, and mock me personally. And in the (very likely) event his person doesn't want to get their facts straight, I walk away, as Christ did. I am encouraging you to likewise follow His example.
  16. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Christ saw people lie about Him and the Truth all the time. And sometimes His response was to walk away, or even be killed because of these false charges. Sometimes you got to walk away.
  17. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Then move on, Mary! Thus far you haven't: you keep coming back here to proselytize to those who have no interest in Catholicism.
  18. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Is you gaol on here to connive other people to become Catholic? If the answer is "yes" then you are proselytizing and having the exact opposite of your desired effect.
  19. J

    What is a Cult?

    *hugs for Grace* Sorry you're having a bad day.
  20. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Mary, if you want your prostlization attempts on here to be remotely successful, you're first going to need to come to understand how a non-Catholic person approaches scripture and understanding it. Right now you're driving people away from yourself and anything Catholic at a million miles per...