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Are Gentiles, who've never heard of John, "born of the will of man" and in need of being "born of the Spirit" to enter God's spiritual Kingdom?

It's not even relevant.

Again, you're solving a non-existent problem : "not of flesh, nor the will man, but of God". The Gentiles need to be born of the Spirit to enter the Kingdom, too, meaning they also are born of flesh, and yet they hadn't submitted to John's baptism--it's got nothing to do with that issue over...

You can fly all the way over to Galatians for your interpretation, but it's really not the point. Nicodemus thought he had to get back into his mother's womb to be "born again". Jesus says "No, born spiritually." The difference is between being born of the will of men, sexually, and being born...

They were baptized in Spirit and fire. They didn't get blue unicorns over their heads. They got fire. Did the fire remain? Sure. Just the miracle of seeing the fire isn't always present. Remember Jesus says the 5 wise virgins have the lamps? Remember it says "be continually filled with the...

Of all the things in John's Gospel that are coded language, they want THIS to be code... my gosh, there're so many actual mysteries.

What "births natural men" is... ipso facto... natural birth. "Flesh gives birth to flesh." "No, Nicodemus, you don't climb back into your mother's womb." LOL It's got nothing to do with Galatians 4, which is part of a denunciation of false a Gospel of going back "Under Law" so as to "work the...

LOL You're laying a requirement on the text that doesn't exist. Jesus tells Nicodemus he has to be born again. Nicodemus thinks he has to get back inside his mother's womb. Jesus corrects him : "born spiritually" Jesus clarifies : "flesh gives birth to flesh, spirit gives birth to spirit".

1. If "water" really does refer to "Word", which it could, how would it be "redundant" when these are two different things? LOL 2. If "water and Spirit" is just "the Spirit", like "Spirit and fire", would "Spirit and fire" not also be "meaningless and redundant"? 3. Still, of all the...

"It is impossible for God to lie." LOL

When you are born of the Word (as Peter teaches we are "born of the Word"), you are born of the Spirit (as John teaches "born of... the Spirit")--there are not two different new births but one and yet we are taught we a born of the Word AND born of the Spirit (knowing the Two are distinct).

1. So, you agree we're born of the Word, and you agree we're born of the Spirit... and yet you wouldn't say these are two different "new births" but one and the same "new birth". 2. It's not any more redundant than saying Jesus baptizes in "Spirit and fire". 3. As I noted earlier, I'm open to...

1. What it should "seem" I'm saying is simply what Scripture says : failure to walk by faith results in a compromise of your standing before God (justification is the opposite of condemnation) Romans 14:23. 2. It is foolish to assume the saved always choose to walk in good works--read 1...

I try not to anymore... but I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility the way things are going. LOL

I'm not forgetting, I'm following 1 Corinthians 10--all of those things apply to us.

@Ferris Bueller Please respond to this.

LOL I may get there soon.

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I absolutely believe it is God Who works. I don't deny that. We are in Christ and Christ is in us--Christ works. That's half of the truth. The other half is that you have to work. You also deny "co-laborers with God"? "My Father works until now and I work"? It's good that you believe part of the...

1. "My Word is Spirit" : they are distinct yet inseparable. 2. Clarify because this makes no sense.