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Paul, thank you very much for this in-depth reply. You have opened my eyes to things I had not before thought of, little lone considered. I hope you will not grow weary in replying to these threads, your honest, and biblical responses are so refreshing, again, thank you. May God abundantly...

Also Bob, what do you mean "the ramifications of Jesus taking back the sacrifice"? I don't believe Scripture says that when Christ was physically resurrected, He was a spirit. When He was physically resurrected, He was once more body, with spirit which is a complete living soul. This is why...

This you will need to explain from Scripture Bob. Why would you believe it "necessary for God's Sovereignty to be vindicated"?

As Paul tells us in Ro 5:7-8 Christ died for the ungodly, and since none are righteous, whosoever shall be saved will not be among the unrighteous. Then as we continue to read Paul's discourse, he affirms that death, through sin came upon mankind, even for men who do not sin in the same manner...

It's a good thing you aren't, because few here will be convinced through unbiblical opinions!

Rg, we have practically perfect agreement. Our discussion is centered around our apparent contention with the word "all". While I agree and acknowledged that Christ gave His life for all sin, you seemed to disagree when I said "all who will believe". The usage of all when connected with...

The point is that none here will be convinced by your unbiblical OPINIONS, we now know that's all you have! Typical millennialist

Without presenting the verses from which you base your doctrine, there is no convincing or arguing. This is a forum for expounding upon and discussing the Word of God, make the case for your doctrine, proving what you allege from Scripture, or you may as well sit down and be silent.

Do you understand that Christ was according to promise is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world? Do you understand this Covenant according to God's promise was enacted in heaven from the foundation of the world? Here is the vision of this Covenant, according to promise being enacted...

Another typical millennial avoidance of Scripture. At least most millennialists know enough to realize posting Scripture would prove they don't argue against Amil, but against the Word of God.

Actually Rg you seem to be conflating Christ's work as man's responsibility. We are saved unto good works, but we are not saved by our good works. Since salvation comes by the grace (first) of God, through faith (second) when we hear the Gospel and believe, clearly salvation is the work of...

Ron, you don't seem to accept or perhaps believe that Christ, through His atoning blood did away with the need to make an offering with the blood of the sacrificial animal again and again. This He did ONCE when He offered up Himself. By giving of Himself once through His atoning blood on the...

Yes, Bob, Jesus, the only begotten Son of the Father, did indeed have a body making Him human, but also the Spirit that gave Him supernatural life, making Him One with God, the Father Who is Spirit. The Spirit that gave Christ physical life is God. 1 John 5:6-9 (KJV) This is he that came by...

Yes Bob, Christ was bodily resurrected after His death. If the spirit that gives man life is not in His body, His body could not have been shown alive after death. The tomb where Christ was buried was empty, this proves He was resurrected in the same body that He died in. As further proof...

Bob, it's easy to say "we disagree", but unless you explain why, what is accomplished by declaring this? If you believe I am in error, how have you helped me to better understand unless you show why I am in error?

Bob, we are enlightened through the Spirit in us. All believers are instruments used by God instructed to show truth from Scripture. I'm delighted that the Scripture through the Spirit gave you better understanding. Praise God, give Him all glory. Pentecost marked the beginning of the...

Bob, mankind is created with a body of flesh, and a spirit that gives life to the body, and together mankind is a living soul. While it is true that the body of all mankind is destined to die, we read also from Ecc that the spirit in man, that which gives life to the body returns to God who...

If Christ became human, and by virtue of His humanity saved every human, why do some men die in unbelief? Are you implying the will of man is able to overcome the will of God to save every human? John writes that all who believe in Him, God gave power to become the sons of God, by the will...

Again you confuse history with the last day of this age when the Lord shall come the second time. Are you, like the Orthodox Jews today still waiting for a Savior?

Don't confuse the last day, when Christ will gather out of His Kingdom, which is represented by the Church on earth, the body of Christ, with history. Only Matthew pertains to the last day.