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    The man of destruction

    Even a babe in Christ can recognize the Church on earth is the representation of the Kingdom of God. We understand because Christ has told us the Kingdom of God is not of this world, but within you. Everyone having been born again through His Spirit in us is in His spiritual Kingdom, and are...
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    The man of destruction

    The Kingdom of God has always spiritually existed through people of faith in Christ, whether Old Covenant Church on earth, or the New Covenant Church on earth. The nation of old was the Church in the wilderness. But, just as the New Covenant Church has both good seed sown by Christ, and tares...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    No Ron, the passage says Christ entered BY His own blood, not WITH His own blood. That was His blood poured out when He gave His life a sacrifice for sin while on earth. You continue to bring extra-biblical doctrine into the Word of God. Hebrews 9:12 (KJV) Neither by the blood of goats and...
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    The man of destruction

    Does it not stand to reason that since Christ will send His angels to gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity, that His Kingdom must be found on the earth through His Holy Spirit within believers? When we read the context from Matthew we learn that it is...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    This shows you have no understanding of the "first resurrection" Bob. Christ received dominion, glory, and a Kingdom that is everlasting and shall never pass away, nor be destroyed when He ascended to the Father in heaven after His resurrection. Your doctrine denies the spiritual Kingdom...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Christ did not ascend physically to heaven for appx 40 days Bob. Because when He ascended bodily toward heaven, He was seen by His disciples being taken up until a cloud blocked Him from their sight. Just as He went in physical form to heaven, so too He will return in the same physical form...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Actually Bob, the first time we read of the Spirit being given, was when Jesus breathed on His disciples before He ascended to heaven. John 20:20-22 (KJV) And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord. Then said Jesus...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    It's really too bad how in these forums it is practically impossible to have a civil discussion. Ignorance is in the eye of the beholder! None have a will that is more powerful than God. If it were the will of God to save all man, then every human being would be saved. It is the will of...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    I don't deny that Christ is the propitiation for ALL sin. Yes, His creation will be saved from the effects of death and destruction that came upon the whole of creation through sin. That still does not mean that Christ's atoning blood was shed to save humans who remain in unbelief. So when we...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    The blood of Christ is the propitiation for "all" sin. But He is the Savior through His sacrificial blood only to "all" who believe. All without distinction, but not all without exception. That's why I quoted Jo 3:16. God loves His whole creation so much that He gave His Son to save, not...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    That's not a proper understanding of the little word "all" used repeatedly in the Bible. Saying "all" cannot be saying "every", otherwise Paul would have written the Christ died for every human. Throughout we find the word "all" is used in making a distinction between Jew and Gentile. IOW...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    All this passage says is that Christ, by His atoning blood, fulfilled all the Levitical Law required from the Old Covenant. Nowhere in Scripture shall be found the atoning work of Christ through His blood must be poured out in heaven for His work to be accomplished. That is indeed bringing...
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    Last day prophecies fulfilled

    You also seem also to fight against the fact that God reveals Himself in three. 1 John 5:7-8 (KJV) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and...
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    Last day prophecies fulfilled

    You seem to be fighting against the fact that God can be human and still be The Divine God. The body of Jesus was baptized to bear witness that He was the Son of God. John 1:32-34 (KJV) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon...
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    Last day prophecies fulfilled

    Like verse 24 says, God is Spirit! Spirit within Jesus, giving His physical form life! Do you deny that spirit beings can and have taken on human form? When spirit beings take a human form, are they no longer spirit beings? Or when they put off the human form they took, are they once again...
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    Last day prophecies fulfilled

    When God became a man, did He not show Himself in human form? Most professing Christians know God is immortal and cannot die. Yet the body Jesus took did indeed die! Yet God can never die. Not a hoax, Jesus as the Son of God in human form gave His physical spotless life to redeem sin, and...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    I'm very aware there are many who are false among us. While we are able to judge them outward by what they say, followed by what they do. But I will let God be their Judge! Romans 10:6-7 (KJV) But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall...
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    Last day prophecies fulfilled

    Exactly! Mankind was only able to destroy the flesh of Jesus, Who is God incarnate.
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    Last day prophecies fulfilled

    How do humans kill a Spirit? He gave His life, that is His human flesh, to be a ransom for sin. But the Spirit, Who is God, which is what gave His body physical life while on earth, never died! Because the Spirit went to the Father in heaven alive. Then three days later the Spirit returned...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Sadly, this is all too true. However, it's not like we have not been warned. Scripture is replete with warnings of false prophets, antichrists, and Satan himself (just to name a few) being among the Church on this earth. Anyone can profess to being born again, claiming they have the Spirit of...