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  1. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Did you know that alot of Christian denominations do not hold to that view, that man became a living soul, but rather hold to the view that God gave man an eternal soul. Have you made the distinction of what "the breath of life" really is, when you read Genesis 6:17 and Genesis 7:15, 22 ?
  2. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    So, you agree with answer #2, of my line item #2, thus agreeing that "man became a living soul" .
  3. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    That is OK and most glorious for the saved, both alive and dead, but what about the unsaved, both alive and dead? Will they get a second chance, AFTER Christ resurrects/raptures His church? Why or why not?
  4. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Since no one here understands their own doctrinal stance, of WHY/HOW they believe in hell, in the way that they do, I have laid it out before you. I repeat: If we who are saved, are going to be living IN the New heaven and New earth, death must be altogether, in all totality, eradicated. One...
  5. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    No one that I know of, who is a born again Christian, has a non-answer on this topic, unless of course they want to avoid it altogether. But if you then choose to avoid it, by which of the two items, that I listed below, do you understand what death is, and for how long it shall exist? "Death"...
  6. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    All of what i presented, in my post is indeed connected to the title of this thread. We have been discussing HOW death is swallowed up in victory, and when! My two items 1&2 each dictate HOW one understands death. You have lost the plot of what I am talking about. You refuse to discuss it, in...
  7. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Ok then! Its not necessary for you to participate in the discussion, unless you have another option that I may have over looked.
  8. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    When you understand how diametrically opposed items 1 and 2 are, you will then begin to see ALL the biblical topics they each effect. Again, which line item of belief are you? #1 or #2?
  9. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Are yoy trying to split a hair with an axe? Christianity is a huge umbrella. It covers every denomination that believes in Jesus as the only Savior. Splitting hairs is not necessary. So, lets not!
  10. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Hi Chris, Yes, I agree, it is a difficult process to comprehend, mainly because our finite minds do not know what to expect in our literal death of the flesh of our bodies. However, the Lord said this in John 11[26] And whosoever liveth AND believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this...
  11. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes! The so called " Rapture" is the 2nd coming of the Lord in all His Glory, in flaming firem In your quote of 1 Thes. 5:2-3, notice the words "they shall NOT escape". That means that there will be NO escapees to re-populate the planet!
  12. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    So also in "that Day", does destruction take place simultaneosly! But it appears that you are led astray and locked up with the foul doctrine of "peace and safety", of which both the world and the churches are trumpeting. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
  13. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    I could make a point about it, and have done so in the past, but the church is so extremely divided over it, the discussion never gets beyond the arguing, so that a formal and healthy discussion can be had. So yes, it might be serious request, but rather it should be more of a truthful...
  14. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Pet doctrines can be idols also!!
  15. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    All doctrines of Christianity pivot and divide on these two concepts: 1. Man was given an eternal soul. 2. Man became a living soul. Now, lets talk about how total victory over death was accomplished by God's judgment of Eternal Life, through faith in His Son. John 3:18 Romans 8:8-9 Stop. We...
  16. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes, I agree! My post was revealing the God generated "seed" of God's Holy Spirit for man. He was first initiated to usward, through the sacrificial death of God the Son, of whom had become the Firstborn from the dead. He Himself became the First New Creature of God the Father's New Creation in...
  17. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    I agree! If one shall follow Jesus, they must come to understand that we are to NOW follow Him in His death and His Resurrection! But it is a process, that is in the reverse order of His! Jesus, through faith in God the Father: 1. He who was Spirit, 2. became mortal Flesh, 3. Baptized/infilled...
  18. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Hi, I don't want drag this out, but we all need to go back and re-center the core of our understandings, and why there is conflict with others and their understandings. I think most Christians read NT prophecy through the filter of numerous preconceived theories, of which many false doctrines...
  19. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Not so fast "GE", Surely, as we both are "amillennial" , we fully understand that the symbolic age of "a thousand years" speaks of the Age of God's Grace through Jesus, beginning on the Day of Pentecost to the present. When we look at the context of Rev. 20:1-6 (KJV only), we can see that satan...