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  1. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    So now hear this: Are you NOW "a partaker of the Divine nature (His)"? 2 Peter 1:4 If so, then YOU are *having "part" in the first Resurrection, who is Christ, aka "the firstborn from the dead" * hath- KJV, meaning: in the present tense
  2. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Concerning John 5:28-29, Jesus says it more clearly in: John 4[23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers [born again of the Holy Spirit] shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth [the "spirit of truth" within them]: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John...
  3. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Btw Charity, in your understanding of all that I have pointed out in those scriptures, you have just taken the first step on the path of the "amillennial view". Please don't be confused about the word "amillennial". Amillenniasts DO BELIEVE in A period of "a thousand years", but we interpret...
  4. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    So then, do any of us who are Born again literally go and appear before the JSoC? No! Its all accomplished spiritually, through faith in Jesus, or the lack thereof. So, for all who have NOT appeared before Christ through faith, their judgment of death remains against them, symbolically being...
  5. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    ^ and 1 John 5[13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
  6. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    With God the Father, He has ordained only TWO judgments for all. 1. The judgment of eternal death through Adam. 2. The judment of Eternal Life through Christ. I think that we can all understand the Great White Throne Jugment (GWT) better, when we FULLY understand the spiritual reality of how it...
  7. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Amen "Sis"- Praise God!
  8. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 Key word: "when" is used twice, concerning the Lords return. That of the wicked and that of the saved. In the context of that scripture, 2 Thessalonians 1, there are three events that take place simultaneously, unto the Lords visible and fiery return, but are "in order"...
  9. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Since you did ask: Why is it people keep asking? Its because we know that the JW-system form of belief, denies that Christ was pre-incarnate, before the foundation of the world. And numerous scriptural accounts have been shown to you, that proves that is so, but you choose to disregard it...
  10. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes! And this is "the order" in how everyone shall be resurrected (a then b): 2 Thes. 1[10] When he shall come (a) to be glorified in his saints, (b) and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
  11. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Amen!! The Jewish understanding then, under the OC, was "allowed" by them to be understood, but there is no OT scripture from God about it. Therefore the only Authority we have, is the testimony of the Lord Jesus Himself, the eyewitness accounts of the disciples, and what the Holy Spirit reveals...
  12. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Amen GE, I do AGREE with you on that! As to to the remainder of your post, I understand what you trying to say, and you will, but only WHEN you comprehend who, and not what the New Jerusalem is.
  13. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Theories?? Here are some facts: Our mortal bodies are earthly because they consist of the elements of the earth, beginning with Oxygen for our blood, so that our mortal flesh will stay alive. Leviticus 17:11 (KJV). Today, we all now know, what the "breath of life" is, when Moses DIDN'T!! But...
  14. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Ok, again, but lets look at it from the truth that you are trying to marry, between to scriptures. (a.) 1 Corinthians 15:50 (b.) Luke 24:39. (a.) Says "flesh and blood". (b.) Says "flesh and bone". Now, as you compare the two, do you see any difference as to what is written? I mean, do the...
  15. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    The focus is on Jesus' own testimony, about His own resurrection, as it is written in the account of Thomas' eyewitness of what he saw, and Christ's words said to him. And I'm the liar?? I think not!
  16. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Then you disagree with the pre-incarnate Christ, speaking of Himself in the book of Proverbs 8:22-31 (KJV)
  17. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Hi Charity, Could you please reference that which the Jews "allow" in their understanding, of a "resurrection of just and unjust" in the OT? I can't seem to find it:) Thanks, EB
  18. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes, hearing the Truth has a tendency to cause the hearers to speak blasphemous words. Yes, please do keep your "natural man" under control and to yourself.
  19. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Umm... prior to Jesus, no one was ever resurrected into Immortality, or an everlasting being of any kind!! Did you forget (or don't know), that only Jesus is the FIRSTborn from the dead".
  20. Earburner

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    You are denying the innocence of the Blood of his mortality, and that He resurrected without blood, into Immortality, being of "flesh and bone".