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  1. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    If you listen to the story words describing what the rich man and Laz are saying and doing while dead, its very much laughable.
  2. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Lets keep it simple! Parables are built on fictitious stories with symbolism. The symbolism of a great gulf is nothing more than the reality of those who have the Holy Spirit of God, and those who do not have the Holy Spirit of God. For those who don't, they are none of His!! Luke 11:13...
  3. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Likewise, the parables of Jesus have a lesson to be learned from His stories. As for "The Rich man and Lazaruth", the message is to the Jews: "...neither will they be persuaded [to repent] though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:30-31 Question to you: by that parable, who was it that rose...
  4. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    All of what you explained is true for all who are not born again of God's Holy Spirit. However since Christ first appeared, all born again Christians have escaped the complete deadness of our being. We have been permanently "quickened" (made alive to God), and even in death we remain so...
  5. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    ^ 2. On Pentecost all the OT saints who died in faith, received the Holy Spirit (white robes) Revelation 6:9-11
  6. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    1. So then according your thinking, all we will ever be is our "names are written in Heaven"? Not so. 2. And when did it happen that the OT saints were "made perfect"? You don't know how. Answers: 1. John 3:3-8 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 2.
  7. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Surely it wasn't into Heaven!! Why? Jesus said so: John 3 [13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
  8. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Fictional writers also use real world terms and realities in their stories. You have not ever read a fictional story that was made up, that it didn't sound real? Evidently you have never read Aesop's Fables, that tell a made up story, in order deliver knowledge about social behavior! Here is...
  9. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    All of that is speaking of equality. In the Eyes of God, we all are equally sinners. There are none that are worse than another in sin. All are equal as sinners. The same applies to the Lord's salvation. By His Grace, there are none better than another. Matthew 5:19. All are made equal in His...
  10. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Helloooo! What's a parable? The rich man and Laz is based on the same principal. A fictional story to deliver a truth. Aesop's Fables are akin to parables.
  11. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Splitting hairs ain't the word for it, you people are getting lost in your word salad!
  12. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    You are just splitting hairs trying make something fictional to happen.
  13. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    And of that entire fictional story of the rich man and Lazaruth, the ONLY truth to be learned is verses 30-31. [30] And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. [31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they...
  14. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Its not in anything of rising or falling, but rather those who did rise from their physical graves after Jesus Resurrection, being them who had died during His Ministry, but were miraculously restored back to their natural life by God, as a witness to Jesus, being God in the flesh. Some were...
  15. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    1. There were no christian saints (martyrs), until after Pentecost! Therefore the saints that arose from their graves AFTER His Resurrection, could be as you say, those who had recently died, but restored back to this life again, being an act of God providing witness to Jesus, that God Himself...
  16. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    I do know that Jesus Himself is THE resurrcetion! However, there seems to be an issue thats not being discussed, and that is in what I previously quoted: > So is David asleep in his grave still? Apparently so, because he was not one of those that arose from their graves after Jesus'...
  17. Earburner

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Yes, its very clear of where the dead in Christ are sleeping, in their graves, aka the pit, hell. 1 Thes. 4[13] But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. [14] For if we believe that Jesus died and...
  18. Earburner

    What is a soul.

    Base 12, for many years of my young life, I followed after the things that were of satan, being those things that you listed. I never read the Bible, nor were there any verses that I heard out of it, that I could remember or quote. It wasn't until Jesus revealed Himself to me in a dream, and...
  19. Earburner

    Is Any Denomination Saved?

    Baptism by water, is no evidence or confidence of salvation, in infants or otherwise. Jesus Himself revealed what we must do in Luke 11:13. Through faith in Jesus, we must ASK for the Gift of God's Holy Spirit. God is faithful to give Him to us, because it is the work of Him "sealing" us to the...
  20. Earburner

    Is Any Denomination Saved?

    There is a difference between walking in the Spirit, as opposed to walking in Religion. The Pharisees, and the types thereof, never do get the message. Much of that can be learned from the parable of the wheat and the tares. Matthew 13