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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    All believer that accept Christ have the holy spirit there fore all believers have a gift not all have the same gift.my conclusion is the gifts have been diversified as the body of Christ grew every believer has a gift from God and has the holy spirit we are promised at the baptism of acceptance...
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    I agree with most of that I think healers come in all shapes and sizes I think its the volenteer in the hospital that comes and prays with you when your ill, the friend that asks their church to pray for you, even if you never went to that church, the prayer line we have here or on other sites...
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    (setfree;49961) I do not know where you are going with your first statement.we can get a word from the Lord anywhere, has God ever spoke to your spirit? I believe he choses who and when to heal, yes! The one that God choses to manifest his Spirit through will get the word of knowledge/wisdom. Im...
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    So sense a healer only seems to do this in his church then you are saying they must have enough faith to go to church. Only then does the knowledge and wisdom come to the healer ?does he pick and chose who to heal ? Or say its up to God? and if he doesnt know whom God will heal and whom he will...
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    then we agree that the healing comes from God to whom he chooses Now if that be true if someone has been given this gift why isnt he at a hospital allowing God to heal whom ever he choose's through that person ??
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    Is someone required to be a believer to be healed??
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    you are taking the pastor thing out of context from my intentWhat I am saying is that pastor means shepard of his flock if one sheep gets lost is it not the shepards duty to go find it and bring it back to the herd.? Same as a pastor its his job to find out why a members of his flock are lost...
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    You build yourself up by believing praying and repenting studying his Word thats what the word teaches us.
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    (setfree;49944) The manifestations in 1 Cor. are for more than just pastors. I never said they werent everyone has some kind of gift but if you are going claim specific gifts there is a biblical standard you must adhere to.
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    No that isnt what I said You build yourself up by believing repenting studying his Word if a pastor minister is doing his Job his flock should be growing in their faith.
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    Proof!

    my goddness follower:) What does she believe?
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    A pastor/minister ect. should build up the faith of his flock through the Word of God not through himself.
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    If you are asking whether or not I think everyone has the same gift No I dont I just think those who claim to have particular gifts have a biblical standard to adhere to.
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    I said power over Satan was for everybodyLuk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you
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    Lets discuss the gifts one at a time.

    I dont understand what you are talking about setfree these are the same gifts yes 1Cor. goes into much more detail but there are not two gifts of healing.
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    Nature Acting Crazy

    (followerofchrist;49922) ...well I think the name of this thread pretty much sums it up. Nature's gone crazy.I was actually talking to one of my friends at school this morning and just a few days ago they have got this terrible ant infestation in their pool house. The ants have taken root inside...
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    The Parable of the Tenants

    (followerofchrist;49928) Matthew 21:35 "And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another."The husbandman is our Heavenly Father, and His servants are the Prophets of God. They are the authors of the Books of the Old Testament. If God is the husbandman...
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    The Parable of the Tenants

    Matthew 21:33 "Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:"Jesus is giving these Pharisees and elders another parable; they...
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    Vatican:Aliens Belief Ok

    (Craig19;49909) Thanks kriss and honestly I agree with you fully. Its just trying to convince some people of the fallen angel theory sometimes scares them away because they are still baby Christians and not yet ready for such material. But if there is, or if there is not, life in space it does...
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    Vatican:Aliens Belief Ok

    (Jerusalem Junkie;49894) Area 51? What is that? A hog farm....I am sorry but this stuff about just because the Bible does not say it or its not in the Bible it cannot exist...theres a lot of stuff not in the Bible but it exist.... I beg to differ nothing that would require our understanding of...