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Exactly ...that was something I mentioned in a previous post ..."what if he had a sexual relationship with a girlfriend before marriage to his wife?"

Are you saying fornication is not grounds for divorce?

I don't see why not. I absolutely do accept it. There's just a lot more I would like to say...or add ....or ask ....

I'm hearing you....

Yes, I knew it was you. :) Thank you for your replies. I'm thinking that a woman in such a case should do everything within her power not to be subjected to things that are sin ...such as being forced to be used by other men ....as one example. Still, she may not marry another unless her...

Yes, but they may not have been in touch or aware of their wounding. And isn't everyone wounded and broken to a degree? I don't think there would be any marriages if we all waited until we were perfect. lol

I would like to see the documentary. How do I view that?

Hmmm .... what if the situation is more complicated? Say ...neither were virgins before marriage ...both from abusive homes, he had a sexual relationship with a girlfriend before he met his wife, she was sexually abused, therefore not a virgin. Both had come to Christ before they met and...

Yes, I agree. Grace and forgiveness should always be the first response. But how would one know if he is changed without going back to him? What looks like a reconciliation might be manipulation and setup for worse.

So a conclusion which I agree with is that she may leave, but not remarry. Of course, forgiveness toward him should be offered...but forgiveness and reconciliation are two separate things. It would be a risk for her to even test going back if he is given to violence. Now, if he is not a...

So you're saying the woman should offer grace and remain in an abusive or even dangerous situation.

If it were God's perfect and original plan, why did he only create one woman for Adam? And why did God not remove several ribs and create more women than just Eve? And why did God start over after the flood with Noah and his sons and each having one wife? Why does Scripture say that a man should...

According to Strong's Concordance, putting away is the same thing as divorcing. _____ G630 Greek: ἀπολύω Transliteration: apolýō Pronunciation: ap-ol-oo'-o ---------- Description: from ἀπό(G575) and λύω(G3089); to free fully, i.e. (literally) relieve, release, dismiss (reflexively, depart), or...

This is true. And it really is a completely different issue from DV and abuse.

I am on mobile and I didn't see where you responded to that post. I did see it afterward. I'm still not clear on the exact clear Biblical stance supporting a woman leaving in that case.

Could you quote the exact scripture reference you base this on? Matthew 19 doesn't seem to address DV at all and Paul is not the speaker there.

Polygamy was not God's perfect original plan. It is even spoken against in the NT... "husbands of one wife." Could you address post #7? EDIT: I saw your post just now... sorry about that.

And yet ...even in case of fornication, there is a distinction between putting away and divorcement. If a man put his wife away bc of fornication, he was to give her a bill of divorcement.

Yes, and I'm considering the difference. So still, a man can divorce his wife if she was not a virgin when he married her. But if a man had committed fornication prior to marriage, she has no right to divorce ....right?

And yet, fornication is?