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  1. stevesonthebay

    Historian shares how Islam really began

    It seems that the Byzantine west is where Christianity was born and established and the Persian east ended up with most of the heretical ideas and beliefs. From memory I think Nestorians followers were exiled to the east. The term "Nestorians" refers to followers of the Antiochene school of...
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    Keith Green

    I watched a doco on Keith Green recently. I was into his music when first saved in the 80s. Along with Larry Norman and Phil Keaggy and amy Grant. I did not realise that he was a child star so to speak. Was very musical at a young age with obvious talent. Could have went into secular music and...
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    Which major Christian church in the U.S. is closest to the truth?

    Actually I have a church that is assoiated with feeding the homeless I attend. Admittedly not as much as I would like as I am disabled. But I love the fellowship. I also volunteer for the local homeless hub once a week who also feed and support the homeless and other people in need. This is how...
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    Which major Christian church in the U.S. is closest to the truth?

    Which church is closest to the teachings and the early church after the disciples. I don't see many being like this. Especially today where its hard to see too much difference between secular ideology and the church. For me there has to be a seperation and a destinct difference between the...
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    Many Say ‘Just BELIEVE’… But What Did JESUS Actually TEACH?

    I think the fruits of the spirit are now more important than ever in determing Christs truth. In a world that makes words itself truth anyone can say they believe. There are many versions of God and Christs truth and without the fruits and obedience to Gods word we could not tell.
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    Israel "the promised land"

    I could imagine it was like an oasis after being in the desert for so long. Not just a beautiful and rich land environmentally and blessed by God. But the opposite of where they came from. Like a treasure at the end of a long journey to savor. I think this was a rich argricultural land as many...
  7. stevesonthebay

    How might I Console a Relative in Hospice Who Refuses Visitors

    Ask the nurse or coordinator to pass on the message that "you are praying for him". Thats 5 words. Surely they would pass on such a message. I think you would have a right to do that as being a relative. People pass on messages all the time. I think such faith messages would be common in these...
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    AOC, Omar and other 'Squad' reps among the 53 House Dems that voted against reaffirming Iran as a terror sponsor

    I just think its weird that we now have a number of radical ideas and groups we did not have in the past. or even comtemplate becoming. Its like the longer we move away from the horrors of how these ideas pan out in reality. The more they are becoming popular. Its not like some new idea has been...
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    AOC, Omar and other 'Squad' reps among the 53 House Dems that voted against reaffirming Iran as a terror sponsor

    The idea of siding with terrorist, open boarders, anti police, and anti US is suicidal empathy. Its siding with known elements that cause destruction and harm to society and ironically to themselves. Once you deny and defy God then you also deny and defy the truth and reality itself. Its a...
  10. stevesonthebay

    Focus On The Family

    Yes thats right. Its clear. Thats spot on. Yes exactly and in some ways similar to the early church who had similar ideology all around them. They had to preserve and seperate the Christian community and families from this secular ideology. Which is not happening today. Rather the church is...
  11. stevesonthebay

    Focus On The Family

    I was responding to another poster who mentioned Paul. I think a couple of people were discussing Paul. No point really. I think it was originally about the role the family played in the early church and Pauls teachings on this. I said that the Christians carried on the Jewish traditions of...
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    Focus On The Family

    I think there was a mixture. It would have been all over the place because it was new to the gentiles and for some Jews deminishing their traditional beliefs. Thats why Paul was needed. Thats why Christ appointed him His ambassador. He represented Christs words to the gentiles. Acts 17:16-34...
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    Focus On The Family

    I think there was every reason that Paul was appointed by Christ to the leader to the gentile churhes. To write his letters to the church as the head. To face the high priests and proclaim the messiah had come in Christ. His eye witness testimony. I think Christ knew that Paul would be needed...
  14. stevesonthebay

    Focus On The Family

    Its in Acts 11. Particularly verses 19-26. Now those who had been scattered by the persecution that broke out when Stephen was killed traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, spreading the word only among Jews. Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and...
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    Great Leaders Do What Drug Addicts Do | Michael Brody-Waite

    I agree that the principles incorporated in the 12 Step recovery program are really life principles that can be applied to more than just addiction. Like step 1 and 2 admitting the problem and surrendering in order to admit that you need a better way. Thats most of the problem that people...
  16. stevesonthebay

    Focus On The Family

    Its not the exceptions. I gave three specific people. But I also gave you an entire church and Christian community in Antioch before Paul. Before Paul arrived, the Gentile Christians in Antioch were converted by Greek-speaking Jewish-Christian refugees (Hellenists) from Cyprus and Cyrene who...
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    Focus On The Family

    Why do you need a verse. This is historical fact. Christians were established beyond Judea pre Paul. A Christian church was established in Antioch a gentile city before Paul. There's no verse that says "Paul was the first and only person to preach to the gentiles". There are no bible verse...
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    Focus On The Family

    I think John is a bit different again to the other Jewish disiciples like Peter, James and Matthew. Though also a Jew he seems to understand some aspects of Greco Roman thinking. Ideas like 'in the beginning was the word and the word became flesh'. Or the idea of 'the light'. Contrasting light...
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    Focus On The Family

    The places the early disciples went were in gentile cities like Antioch. Many gentiles heard the gospel and were saved. But also other peoples from various cultures that were not Jewish. These were not exceptions as many were saved. The churh at Antioch was big and growing fast before Paul. Yes...
  20. stevesonthebay

    There are two types of people out there

    Its interesting that there are two types of people out there and then name the dems and rep as examples. I think generally speaking this may be true. You are right that most democratic nations seem to have this left and right divide. Though there are other parties like the Greens or other...