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I'm fine with that view and agree with your view. I'm NOT defending preterists! That is a LIE! Why do you insist on lying about me? Repent of your LIES! I'm showing how it's viable to see verse 26 as possibly referring to both the Messiah, Jesus, and to Titus, without that meaning that verse 27...

Why do you say that?

You have this false idea that the reference to the prince that shall come somehow is saying that the prince that shall come would come some time after the Messiah comes. That is not at all what the text indicates. It simply refers to a prince that would come some time in the future from the time...

This is what I believe as well, but somehow it makes me a preterist and you're not. What gives? Unbelievable.

Will you, for once, read what I actually say? Take your time for once and pay attention to what is actually being said. I'm saying that view is viable because of how Hebrew grammar works. I'm being fair to that particular view. It doesn't require believing that verse 27 has to be in reference...

No, it does not. If that was the case, I'd agree with them that all, or at least most of the Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation were fulfilled by 70 AD, but I do not. So, you have no clue as to what you're talking about, as usual. Nonsense! I do not claim that Jesus came in 70 AD like...

What happened with Paul was after Jesus said what He did in John 3:13. You keep trying to find ways around the truth, but you can't do it.

The concept is taught in scripture, as I showed in my post that you apparently ignored. The concept that is not taught in the Bible is that God shows favoritism to the people of Israel over the people of other nations. Acts 10:34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God...

When people lie, as you did, I call them liars. It's too bad that you think it's okay to lie. You should repent of your lies instead of whining about me calling it out.

He probably likes both equally well since he believes in two raptures. LOL.

I do not promote the preterist doctrine. That is a LIE. Why do you think it's okay to lie? Do you not know that it's a sin? I disagree with preterists on most of their understanding of the Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation. You obviously don't even know what a preterist is. I'll just...

All of spiritual Israel are and will be saved. We ARE so fortunate and you don't even know it! Sad! Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the...

I'm not saying it can be anyone other than Christ! You continue to not understand anything I say! Why? I don't believe you are reading what I'm saying very carefully. NOWHERE! I'm not saying that! He is NOT saying that Titus is referred to in verse 27! Can you not understand that?

He thinks God shows favoritism based on nationality. He rejects passages like this... Acts 10:34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

So, you're saying you had thought all Christians believed in a pre-trib rapture? Are you aware that none of the early church fathers wrote about a pre-trib rapture and that it was not a view that anyone taught until around the early 19th century? And it has been the minority view of Christians...

I'm not doing that. And that passage has to do with condemning people, not saying that you are not reading what I'm saying carefully. You are taking that passage completely out of context. Why do you have to resort to these LIES? I am not a preterist. You whine a lot about how people talk to...

Do you mean you thought every Christian believed in a pre-trib rapture or in the rapture in general, regardless of whether it was pre, mid or post trib?

Yes, and? Did I say otherwise? No, I did not. About 3,000 Jews were saved on the day of Pentcost alone and that was great. Your evil attempts to try to paint me as some kind of Jew hater shows that you are being manipulated by Satan. I want all Jews and all Gentiles to be saved, just as God does.

LOL. Excellent job of not addressing anything I said. Well done, buddy! If that was your goal then you succeeded with flying colors.

Please read the post I just made (post #357) to see how the Hebrew grammar can be understood. The "he" in verse 27 does not have to refer to the prince in verse 26, but can refer to the Messiah in verse 26 instead. Hebrew grammar allows for either possibility. That's why I believe his view is...