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    Is the growing hatred of Jews and Israel, particularly by Christians, an omen of something extraordinary happening "soon"?

    It is a doctrine. This is a rough definition from Google; Replacement theology, also known as supersessionism, is a Christian doctrine claiming that the Church has replaced—or superseded—Israel as God’s chosen people. It asserts that God’s covenantal promises to the Jewish people have been...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    QUOTE "Doesn't look like (The Beast) is ruling the earth to me, as seen in the scripture below" That is because you omit rev 12 and 13.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    QUOTE "The scripture you provided shows absolutely "Nothing" to support a pre-trib rapture" You mean this passage in posted? Revelation 13 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    The beast kills them. So factor more things in. Then draw conclusions.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Nope. In fact, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK is when the AC descecrates the temple. (7 yr trib like God's word says). ...around Daniel ch 7
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    QUOTE "The scripture you provided shows absolutely "Nothing" to support a pre-trib rapture" Lol I can only show you what God's word says. Read and know from SCRIPTURE none of you "go through the trib" All of you either take the mark or die. God gave you a brain. Read what it says. Hello? ??? 16...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    BTW, The beast. ( the AC) kills them. You left that out. You also left out that the wrath part of the trib is after they are caught up to heaven. Rev 11 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I never denied anything about the 2 witnesses. Show me where i denied anything about them. It says the AC rules for 42 months You are showcasing the wrath part of the 7 yr trib, then pretending the AC did nothing the bible says he did. We agree that when the wrath part starts even the AC...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    That dynamic, as you are spinning it, OMITS what the AC does. It says EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD WORSHIP HIM. You are spinning it, most likely to protect some corner you painted yourself into. You have not proven the AC is a non factor and never will.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Stop the nonsense. Try another approach. Rev 7 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    no the AC kills millions if not billions, as the bible teaches
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    as i thought. You are conjecture centered. no verses at all.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes yes we all see how everyone of us is evil in your eyes and you are such the champion that all your colleagues ( just as deluded as you ) agree. Every post you make is your infallability and everyone that challenges your made up rant, come from satan. That alone is massive red flags.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    If you are bible centered, post a postrib rapture verse for us. Should be easy.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Ever wonder why postribbers reject verses and yet post nothing to authenticate their made up doctrine. We have 9+verses to your zero. You just make claims. No verses. Just claims. Pretrib rapture was taught 4 separate times by Jesus himself. Your response is "it came from satan." *Rev 3 10...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Do you ever converse without invoking satan on somebody head ? You claim anti bible rhetoric WITH NO VERSES. You claim the rapture is from the wrath. Everybody belives it. HELLO...the pretrib rapture is from the wrath Are you saying postrib rapture???? You can not read God's word???? The...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Honest end time study incorporates all context and rejects doctrines based on omission. The "going through the trib" belief is made up. Bible facts: 1) the AC is given power to overcome the saints 2) every human on the planet, not a believer, either takes the mark, or is martyred. 3) 1 thes 4...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Oh I see this daily. The many pretrib rapture verses cast down. Then the false doctrine followers scoring their make believe touchdowns with many empty sentences of CONJECTURE. That what you are talking about?