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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Paul "Body of Christ" Church V Matt 24:31 ELECT .. Is the Mark of the Beast in operation at the time of Matt 24:31 ?
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    That's funny, yet I am genuinely trying to understand why Si believes what he does
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    Marry in Registry Office

    Yes, He definitely was there. Yet they were UNBELIEVERS. Based on that, do you believe GOD still recognizes them as married ?
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Let's try basics Do you believe MARK OF BEAST is in use in Matt 24:31 ? If so, what happens to a believer who takes the 'mark' ?
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    Marry in Registry Office

    Was that YES you do believe GOD considers this couple married or NO ? .. Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce. Both understand what they are about to do Both are UNbelievers Parental consent is not given Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    List the verses that teach Matt 24:31 ELECT is Eph 4:30 SEALED believers (Church) today
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    Marry in Registry Office

    In that case do you believe that GOD considers this couple married ? .. Boy & girl, early teenage years, both able to reproduce. Both understand what they are about to do Both are UNbelievers Parental consent is not given Both have previously fornicated with others but now only with each other...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You believe that Matt 24:31 is the same event as 1 Cor 15:52, 1 Thess 4:17 Then list the verses that teach THE ELECT in Matt 24:31 are the same believers referenced to in 1 Cor 15:52, 1 Thess 4:17 Take your time :)
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    and the verses that teach the ELECT in Matt 24:31 are those mentioned in 1 Cor 15:52, 1 Thes 4:17 are ?
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    And the verses that teach THE ELECT in Matt 24:31 are those spoken of in 1 Cor 15:52, 1 Thes 4:17 are ?
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Your opinions are not Scripture List the verses and keep your compliments to yourself or p/o :)
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    In 1 Cor 15:52, 1 Thess 4 :17 Paul does not teach that angels are involved, nor does Paul teach that the RAPTURED are the elect spoken of in Matt 24:31. If you believe otherwise, list the verses and not "SILLY" OPINIONS :)
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Good at least now you are seeing that Matt 24:31 is not the event in 1 Cor 15:52 & 1 Thess 4:17 :)
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Where does Paul teach that in 1 Cor 15:52, 1 Thes 4:17 that angels are involved as in the Matt 24:31 gathering ?
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Confirmed by Paul in 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 for today But what about early Acts BEFORE Paul ? What verses do you believe teach how the HS was received then ?
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Then list the verses from Paul that teach Angels do the GATHERING in 1 Cor 15:52 & 1 Thes 4:16-17 and the verses that teach ANGELS did the gathering are ? :)