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  1. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Your doctrine has half of a group raptured. A group of wicked. Half of a group removed. That is partially true, but you can never honestly address it. Your doctrine becomes mass confusion as you are demonstrating. I ask you pinpoint questions and you dodge every single one.
  2. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    My fingers are numb from posting scripture. My starting point is the bride and bridegroom. That in itself is an education. Matthew 9:15: Jesus identifies Himself as the bridegroom, explaining why His disciples do not fast while He is with them. Matthew 25:1–13: The Parable of the Ten Virgins...
  3. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yet another red flag. Agreeing to hate the body of Christ.
  4. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Mat 24 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Look to YOUR doctrine. Maybe you are unaware what your...
  5. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I will try. Needle in a haystack. Maybe when I have 20 minutes to burn.
  6. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I am 1000% scripture based. Show me one place I am wrong. I have over 13 passages that say exactly what they say. take anything. anything. and show me where i am wrong. I love honest debate. Dave and si are in no way honest.
  7. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Amen to that. Why do postribbers not heed scripture? It is bizarre.
  8. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Passages have to be reconciled. I am presenting 4 cases where Jesus declared a pretrib rapture. 3 cases where there are separate comings ( 3 comings) With out investigation there is limited revelation, and error is incubated and accepted.
  9. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Not yet. But soon. The stage is set. Great deception though is here, as I am seeing so many willing to skew passages. Sadly
  10. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You changed it. From "gathered in heaven by angels" To ..."i come for my elect." You skewed the words of Jesus for your doctrine. Sad
  11. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You line up with vague nonsense personal mess. Got it. It does suit you and him though since neither of you can honestly debate.
  12. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Lol You deliberately misquoted that. you really hate what it says. It actually ofends you. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.. Your reconstructed skewed version is...
  13. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    The bride is raptured pretrib. Mat 24 and 25. Clear and unmistakable. Way too much detail to honestly cast it down. Jesus said it in those 2 passages. Then Jesus DIRECTLY DECLARES it. TWICE Rev 3 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of...
  14. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    No you don't. The only sketchy info you have concerning the pretrib rapture doctrine, is whatever we have told you. None of it sticks, because those verses are cast down by you. You have no clue about the pretrib rapture doctrine. The thought of it offends you. In fact every single postribber...
  15. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Jesus himself placed the rapture pretrib 4 different places. Stop acting like he didn't. You are REASONING yourself into a lie. Fire your teachers and listen to Jesus.
  16. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You just posted a verse in matt. That after the trib, algels gather in heaven. Mat 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And...
  17. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    If you don't know the video talking points, why ask me to waste my time. I already know ALL YOUR TALKING POINTS. You do not know the pretrib rapture doctrine. That puts you at a disadvantage. ...and is why you reply in vague talking points. .....and some video
  18. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Note the postribber non bible debate skills. Emogies and vague indirect talking points.
  19. rebuilder 454

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Just tell me the misguided "truth" of your time wasting video. I already know every one of your doctrine workbook talking points. You won't address anything specific.