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In order for the Son of Man to come into the Fathers presence, suggests that he left his glorious presence at some point. The only occasion I can think of is his ascending back to father after he came to bear the cross. At that point he is given all authority, just as he said. After the cross...

I was obviously. Why else would go to the trouble of proving it is talking about Jesus being glorified in us, his body. You do believe we are glorified at some point, right? Having a body like his glorious body is our bodily change in the twinkling of an eye at his appearing ' coming. How is...

Chkl: hmmx1: Still didn't answer my question = when are we glorified? Hint, Phil 3 20 But [we are different, because] our citizenship is in heaven. And from there we eagerly await [the coming of] the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 21 who, by exerting that power which enables Him even to...

That is vague. You actually quoted a question I asked you, but you didn't answer it.

you just made up a lie and made yourself the hero. I am trying to tell you that Jesus word as written is the hero. There you go again. God needed you to point that out to me. Where you looking into a mirror when you stated that?

Your making Jesus words as written contradictory and insufficient with your spin on other scriptures. Dont forget to make note of something else Jesus said regarding his coming..., Mk 13 21 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed)!’ or, ‘Look, He is...

They clearly do. If they do not, then when are we glorified? When he appears we will be like him, for we shall see him as is when he comes a second time in the glory of our Father. 1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are [even here and] now children of God, and it is not yet made clear what we will be...

It is not a different day. At the second coming all those who have believed are glorified and caught up into his presence to remain with him forever. At the second coming all those who have not believed are eternally separated from his presence. The lord comes in a flame of fire taking full and...

:nnna You clearly do not accept those scriptures I posted. Lets look at one..., Matt 25 31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory and majesty and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him [for judgment]; and He...

Those who want to know what Gods word teaches should take Jesus seriously. Do you accept the teaching of Jesus as written regarding what he will do when he comes again with his Angels? No, you do not. Matt 16 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory and majesty of His Father with...

Left behind where? Jesus said heaven and earth would pass away when he comes again..., LK 21 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 34 “But be on guard, so that your hearts are not weighed down and depressed with the giddiness of debauchery and the nausea of...

Hi, Dan 9 24 “Seventy weeks [of years, or 490 years] have been decreed for your people and for your holy city (Jerusalem), to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make atonement (reconciliation) for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness (right-standing with God), to...

What atonement would that be?

We have complete atonement now. Why are you looking to the future for atonement? Heb 9 12 He went once for all into the Holy Place [the Holy of Holies of heaven, into the presence of God], and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, having obtained and secured...

A point you don't seem to agree with or understand. Lol, It's about Jesus securing our eternal rest and righteousness in him.

Well said Also, how can our rapture to glorification occur before Jesus completely atones for us in the 70th week? Can one partake of the tree of life before he washed clean and born again? :thumbsupx1 :tiphat:

God had things written to benefit all people now and, in the future, and it has immensely. It ends in the blessed hope of all generations, which is the appearing of our great GOD AND SAVIOUR. Tit 2 11 For the [remarkable, undeserved] grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men...

Not so. How do I know this?...., 1cor 15 15 Now brothers and sisters, let me remind you [once again] of the good news [of salvation] which I preached to you, which you welcomed and accepted and on which you stand [by faith]. 2 By this faith you are saved [reborn from above—spiritually...

That is unfortunate. That would suggest God still overlooks ignorance.... but he doesn't. Act 17 30 Therefore God overlooked and disregarded the former ages of ignorance; but now He commands all people everywhere to repent [that is, to change their old way of thinking, to regret their past...

The very words that Jesus has already spoken is what will finally judge them. Today is the day to repent so do not delay. God is patient today, not wanting any to perish but all to respond to his Gospel before he returns. 2Pet 3 9 The Lord does not delay [as though He were unable to act] and is...