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Yes of course it’s God the Father that’s what I was saying as the same as Matthew says in the wicked tenants parable. My point was that Jesus comes in judgement and fights with the sword of His mouth His word and He speaks judgement and at times uses other to do it like in revelation chapter 2...

Do you really that that the living water in Zechariah 14 isn’t the same living water as below? John 7 37 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers...

Yes of course I didn’t dispute that just like the parable of the wicked tenants but as I said in Matthew 22 sthe king sent His armies

You,claimEd that “in that day” from Zechariah 12-14 also speaks of the future, that day is the day of the Lord

It actually says says that the King sent His Amy and Jesus is the leader and He does the fighting with the sword of His mouth His word like in the verse below Revelation 2 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Yes but there’s always hope and other people reading the post

I'm not claiming that "the second coming" has already come but Jesus did come in judgement

Not sure how that's full Preterism, I'm not one

You are doing the exact same thing as you claim that we are doing yet you are right and we are wrong! You say that we jump all over and then you claim that the day of the Lord goes all the way from the first century and then for three thousand more years. If the day of the Lord can be that long...

So your saying that Jesus will return when you say hum. Christians have been wrong for 2000 years now. In the first century Jerusalem was attacked Jewish women were rapped Jews were exiled Jews didn't leave the city because they died there Jesus stood on the mount of Olives The saints fled...

I'm sure that we have gone over this before a few times but its not the same when the bible has used a thousand t not to mean a thousand more than once. But my point was that Dave sees "in that day" to be over two thousand years and counting but a thousand years to only be a thousand years...

I do find it interesting that you think that "in that day" started in the first century and is still happening today but you still think that the thousand years is only a thousand years.

Thank you for your support but he's not listening. I think its time to stop indulging him

Yes I agree that you can't repent of taking the mark but we differ in what the mark actually is. Scripture contradicts itself (and we all know that scripture can't contradict itself) if its a literal mark or just worship of the beast. I have no problem if its just says that they won't repent...

Yep, I actually post sometimes for other people reading the thread. I know when you can't get through to certain people, they close their minds and can't reason or ever change their view through pride

I clearly stated there that you can't repent of the mark

Nope time to check out I guess its supposed to be debating

No I didn't

if that day came I still wouldn't think its that mark, but I would never be apart of anything that would want me to reject Jesus

No I don't I never said that I was just debating what the mark is