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I found this its interesting In the Bible, Exodus 33:20 states, "You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live." This verse highlights the absolute holiness of God and the sinfulness of humanity. It emphasizes that approaching God in His full glory is impossible for humans due to our...

I believe that's its called "the great tribulation" because it will never end in our world. It started the day Stephen was killed and is still happening today.

Thanks for your prayers, I'm glad our debating and frustrations issues are never personal LOL we are all still on the same side

Revelation 7 4 I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Well it does but the word "The" separates it from other great tribulations

Yes and I agree there are two main comings, but I was using EQ's own example of a coming against him. He then changed his own rules without mentioning that he was mistaken. He said that its when Jesus came from heaven to the earth, I then showed him from the scriptures that Jesus ascended to...

Well Jesus was talking about the temple destruction in Mathew 24 and the persecution on the church started before the temple was destroyed as we see in the book of Acts. I agree that "the great tribulation" is on the church, but Jesus was just talking about "a great tribulation" in Mathew 24...

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I was only posting of the description that EQ used as a coming, he said Jesus coming from heaven to the earth and the bible shows multiple times in the old testament that Jesus came from the heaven to the earth. I don't understand why people focus on just two coming when the bible shows way...

I am sorry to hear about your wife and your troubles Dave, I'm in the same boat as you as my wife is going through breast cancer for the second time in three years, for the second time her beautiful hair is gone. Her outlook looks okay but its been a couple of rough roads but through this all...

No that’s not true who walked with Adam in the garden? The bible shows many times that God came to the earth so there can be many comings even in judgements

You’re so frustrating every time i show you wrong scripturely you change the rules. You shouldn’t be debating you don’t play by the rules It was you who said a coming is when Jesus came down from heaven to the earth and I showed twice that He did before He was born and then you say it...

Please read Genesis chapter 18 and chapter 32:22-32 and you will see two times that Jesus came down to the earth before the first advent

I’m not raging mad at you and I can take criticism, my point was that you made a very nice statement to me which I appreciate and then your very next reply started with unneeded criticism and accusations. If you ever want to converse with someone and start off like that the other persons back...

So who went into Sodom and Gomorrah with Abraham?

You say that you want to converse better and then you say something stupid like "So don't play games with the texts involved" Why would you say that which changes my attitude towards you? You characterize me as someone who plays games with scripture I already quoted the verse that proves it...

Yet premils reject this verse Romans 5:17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! The problem is that...

See post #411, there is no contradiction with amil here, if your not truly saved you never reign

I'm once saved always saved but your fruits prove if your are saved. That being said, amil doesn't contradict anything, you only reign if you are truly saved God knows if you are truly saved or not 1 John 2 18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is...

Really? Yes, the name Israel is traditionally understood to mean "he who wrestles with God" or "God prevails," originating from Jacob's encounter with God in Genesis. Biblical Origin The name Israel was given to Jacob after a dramatic encounter described in Genesis 32:22–32, where Jacob...

So did Jesus wrestle with Jacob?