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  1. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    But why base your understanding of the whole kingdom concept on an assumption that the disciples were talking about the restoration of the Rabbinic ideal? Because there’s a lot more in the Scripture about this whole idea of the “restoration/reconstitution/regeneration” of the Davidic rule than...
  2. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    I apologize for the length of my posts, but I believe the point of these forums is to actually discuss views, not simply state what they are. And discussion involves "why" we hold a particular view, the Biblical reasons for it, and since my views are founded on rather extensive Biblical...
  3. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    I'm afraid I have difficulty following your reasoning, but I don't think Paul saying that the Law of God having a shadow of good things to come, or the holy days being shadows of things to come, or the High Priest being a shadow of One yet to come, or the sacrifices being offered every year...
  4. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    I wasn't arguing that the trumpets or the Jubilee were shadows of the resurrection. I laid out a different explanation based on what the sounding of Trumpets actually meant in Scripture as well as what Jubilee was actually associated with in Scripture. However, I do agree with Gadar that those...
  5. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    A couple of quick comments on Zechariah and Micah: You mean the part about the feet of Jesus literally standing on the mount of Olives in the day when the nation of Israel would be divided and the righteous would receive salvation and the sinners would be consumed by God’s wrath?
  6. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    Okay, I agree that all the earthly kingdoms will one day be destroyed when this present fallen heavens and earth are destroyed, and in the new heavens and earth there will no more man-made earthly kingdoms. And I also agree that will occur at the 2nd coming of Jesus. I further agree that is when...
  7. Pilgrimer

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    I agree that trumpets symbolized an alarm of coming destruction but not the destruction of the world, but the destruction of the Old Covenant kingdom. That “shaking” and “removing” that Paul talks about in Hebrews and I commented on in the other forum. Don’t you think perhaps there might have...
  8. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    If the blood of Jesus Christ doesn’t provide remission of sin, then there no sacrifice for sin as the Law of God requires and we are therefore without hope. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  9. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    “And when the thousand years are expired … I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no more place for them … and I saw a new heavens and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and...
  10. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    You have spoken truly, the blessings of what Jesus did for us on that old rugged cross are ongoing, and will in fact forever be the one reason that we can stand before God without guilt. Not because of any works that we have done to make ourselves innocent of sin and acceptable to God, our own...
  11. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    The Law of Moses is the law of sin and death. It’s not some separate law. The whole essence of the Mosaic Law is that Israel covenanted with God to keep ALL the commandments, and statutes and judgments, and if ANY of the commandments or statutes or judgments were broken, even unknowingly or...
  12. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    I was addressing the post … “You would put out some of those lights because you falsely believe Yeshua replaced them.” My response what that I “correctly believe Jesus fulfilled them, every one.” And I testify again that which I know to be true, that Jesus Christ has fulfilled all the shadows...
  13. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    But the sacrifices is not all Jesus fulfilled. And I remind you again, Jesus said not one jot or tittle would pass away until all was fulfilled. So have any jots and tittles passed away? I understand that your interpretation of what the feasts symbolized is why you insist that there are some...
  14. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    Paul spoke of the “holy days,” which would include the feasts and the sabbaths. And the holiest day of the calendar was the Day of Atonement, which you agree Jesus fulfilled. And Passover was a holy day which you also agree Jesus fulfilled. Paul wasn’t saying the feasts had not been fulfilled...
  15. Pilgrimer

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    As I pointed out in the previous note, you are using a verse to make a rule that is obviously not true. Paul also spoke of the priestly ministry in the temple in the present tense because the sacrifices and offerings were still being offered in the temple day and night: “there are priests that...
  16. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    You are the one who offered the dictionary definition of shadow, not me. And then used that dictionary definition to make up a rule that therefore the shadow could not exist before the reality. I disagreed, but it should not be this hard to arrive at the conclusion that these earthly “shadows”...
  17. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    Yes, that rule. I think you are taking the Old Testament things being shadows too literally. The temple and its furnishings and ministry were not actual shadows in the sense of being a dark area that the light is blocked from shining on. That would rob the Law of the light it provided to God’s...
  18. Pilgrimer

    Merry Christ Mas !

    I know this is an old post but I wanted to respond. It's not true that Christians adopted a pagan holiday to celebrate Jesus' birth. There are written records dating back to 98 B.C. that record Christians observing the "feast of the nativity" as it was originally called, on December 25, almost...
  19. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    We are discussing Old Testament types and figures that foreshadowed the person and work of Jesus and how and whether or not they might have been fulfilled. The physical birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus were not types or figures that foreshadowed something future, they were themselves...