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  1. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    I have indeed looked into the foundations of our customs. Extremely meticulously in fact. And not relying on others to do the heavy lifting for me but researching the Scriptures, historical records including all the Talmudic materials as well as the works of Josephus and Philo, and all the...
  2. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    Well … yeah. That’s what I’ve been saying. These bodies we are living in now are our temporary tabernacles while we travel through the wilderness of this world heading to the promised land with God dwelling with us as a cloud, a pillar of fire, manna, and water from the rock. Once the...
  3. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    Let’s look at that in context: “Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcasses, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood. And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host...
  4. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    I hope you’re not serious. I’ve seen this kind of word games before. The Watchtower teaches that they believe in the resurrection of Jesus. But then they redefine “resurrection” so that it doesn’t mean something that was dead being raised back to life, but instead they redefine it as a memory of...
  5. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    Not at all. It was the very literal flesh and blood birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus that has provided us our spiritual blessings, and what will one day be the material manifestation of them. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  6. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    So "the shadow is cast by the reality and not vice versa, and the shadows were not created to bring about the reality, but the reality was created to cast the shadow" … except when it comes to Jesus. In his case, the shadow existed before the reality was created to cast a shadow. Confusing and...
  7. Pilgrimer

    Poll Bible

    Thank you, and a very Merry Christmas. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  8. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    But Tabernacles commemorated dwelling in temporary tabernacles after being delivered from sin and before entering into the promised land. According to the view above it was about dwelling in permanent tabernacles after entering the promised land. Fulfillment cannot be something completely...
  9. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    Actually, the passing away of this present old world is not foretold in the prophets, only the beginning of the new creation is foretold. There is a Rabbinic saying that the prophets spoke not except of the days of Messiah. Everything that was foretold in the Old Testament, whether through...
  10. Pilgrimer

    Poll Bible

    Greetings to you as well. I apologize up front for this lengthy post but the historical record has much to say on this issue. The Saturnalia of the late Roman period was very different from the primitive celebration, even the date had been changed. Originally, the Saturnalia was a one-day...
  11. Pilgrimer

    Poll Bible

    I would add that is equally true of Easter and it's customs. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  12. Pilgrimer

    Poll Bible

    I didn’t see any response to your question so I’d like to answer. No, there is no truth to what they are stating, neither from a Biblical, historical, archaeological, or even a meteorological standpoint. The average low temperature in Bethlehem on Christmas Eve (December 24/25) is 42 degrees...
  13. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    That’s because the feasts cannot be kept “holy” if by “holy” you mean observed according to the commandments of the Law. And the reason is obvious, because they were given to be shadows to point to Jesus, and now that Jesus has come and shed the light of the knowledge of God, the shadows have...
  14. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    Again, as Christians we do not “cease celebrating the true thanksgiving feast.” The “true feast” is the body and blood of Jesus. People seem to forget that the feasts were "feasts" because the law required sacrifices and offerings and it was portions of these sacrifices and offerings that the...
  15. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    Well that’s the crux of the matter, isn’t it? Jesus said till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle would pass from the law until ALL the law was fulfilled. And it is self-evident that there are jots and tittles that have certainly passed from the law, lots of them in fact, all those...
  16. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    Actually, I’m a very emotionally stable person and don’t tend toward nonsense. I’m just trying to find some common ground with you. I think you may be missing a lot of realities because you’re so focused on shadows. Under the New Covenant, God’s “holy days” are all fulfilled in “the Day of...
  17. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    How did the "lamb slain from the foundation of the world" cast a shadow before it existed? In Christ, Pilgrimer
  18. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    Sigh~ really? I think we both agree that this is talking about an event that would be associated with the coming of Jesus, you just believe it’s the second, I believe it’s the first. But you know full well there is no sense in which the Babylonian or Assyrian wars could be associated with...
  19. Pilgrimer

    Upcoming Holy Days

    I have studied them, especially as they existed during 2nd Temple period, and your views are very much more in line with theirs than with Christianity. Odd that you could come to such similar views on your own. Do you perhaps attend a Messianic congregation? Of course a shadow can foreshadow a...
  20. Pilgrimer

    Shadows and Realities

    But the point is that you agree we’re not required to observe the letter of that commandment and yet that does not mean we are therefore breaking that commandment. And if that can be true of one commandment, it can be true of another. Saying it cannot be is a man-made rule. We celebrate the...