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1A) The whole business of Sunday being the mark of the Beast is such weak sauce that Adventists should be ashamed of that claim, if "being Biblical" is actually a real thing they actually care about. I say this because of all the 8th Day Typologies, Rituals etc. in OT Judaism and their...

My position 2 Something also should be said concerning the Biblical passage from Ephesians about "The Church being built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets". There is no doubt that the Church was built on the foundation of the Apostles. But as for the "Prophets", I do not see...

My position 1 I do not believe in Cessationism. The formal doctrine that the gifts of the Spirit "went away with the death of the apostles". I do not believe a belief that strong can really be taught, without a strong Faith statement coming from the Bible like we see from "The Sermon on...

I was watching a video about Seventh Day Adventism, and I ran across this term that I hadn't heard in decades. Actually, the first and last place I heard it was in the Charismatic movement. In the 90s when I was coming into the movement when I entered graduate school, is where I ran into the...

I think the nature/history of the Shutdoor doctrine/prophecy, my second point would be a good second thread, since that is what I believe is the real issue with all the Sabbath thumping. :) But will put that off until the first one winds down, and assuming your interested in talking about it.

@BarneyFife we can chat on "Present Truth" and how I disagree with it based on the my experience of the guy in the above video, and even more when I understood how Seventh Day Adventists use that term! My disagreement first comes from something I call "Biblical Epistemology" (Bible verses...

Yes, but that is the problem with your main theological authority / inspired interpreter of scripture. Here is also something you SDA should be aware of when it comes to concepts like "the Spirit of Prophecy", "Present Truth" etc. lots of Christians have experience dealing with that via...

Actually, it is extremely easy to post at CFI @BarneyFife you just have to avoid making waves. And if you fail at that, there are quite a bit of grace points. The problem however is I think sometimes God wants us to make waves, even Jesus said "He has not come to bring peace but a sword".

I only had trouble over at CF after I came to the conclusion based on studying Adventist positions from Ellen White, their 28 Doctrines statement etc. that Adventism wasn't Christian according to the basic Nicene Christian stance of the board, and that only happened after being on the board 5...

5) The Three Angel's Message Does not Fit the Biblical definition of the Gospel This is the entirety of the Gospel message. 1 Corinthians 6:14 - And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. Romans 6:4 - Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into...

4) Believe not every spirit (still on Sunday) John 4 King James Version 4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ...

3) Adventism's preaching and teaching against Sunday is done from ignorance (blaming the Pope or Constantine for something that was done much earlier and for Biblical reasons and roots).

2) Adventism's revelation on keeping the Sabbath (beyond the older Seventh Day Baptist teaching) is simply an attempt to fix the failed Shut door Prophecy The movement had boxed itself in a corner around 1844, by Ellen Harmon/White having a revelation that confirmed the Shutdoor doctrine. A...

lol your "Mexican jumping bean" comment did get a laugh and a grin from me @BarneyFife. I suppose I will bow out of this conversation if you think I am hijacking things, but you made the mistake of asking to defend my stance and that is very involved. :) Take Care and best wishes. to you...

@BarneyFife here is another piece of evidence on the issue of regeneration. It comes from the Adventist fear of the dreaded coming "Sunday Law". What is up with that? The Coptic Church and other Middle Eastern Christians are a literal remnant (rather than a hypothetical one as Adventism...

It's funny you talk about Us vs. Them, you remind me of my time at an old Postmodern Christian message board called theooze dot com. There was a person I knew back in the early 2000s named Polycarp that mentioned that sort of thing. And I have used that exact language myself talking about...

By the way I listen to a lot of Apologetics concerning Adventism put out from former cradle Adventists on these kinds of topics. Technically speaking it is my new favorite hobby! :) I actually feel called to this ministry after Tangoing a few years with the SDA at Christian Forums dot com...

You SDA forget that God never authorized Purim nor the Festival of the Dedication aka Hanukkah but they nevertheless were celebrated as lesser feasts, and it seem like God approved for even Jesus celebrated Hanukkah and never spoke out against Purim. The same thing is true for Sunday only much...

Ignatius of Antioch The Epistle Of Ignatius To The Magnesians, AD 103 CHAP, VIII. — CAUTION AGAINST FALSE DOCTRINES. Be not deceived with strange doctrines, nor with old fables, which are unprofitable. For if we still live according to the Jewish law, we acknowledge that we have not received...