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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The stars in the sky are stationary, but the nine planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) are not stationary. They all orbit the sun ("wander"). Today we know that the planets are fundamentally different from the stars, but the ancients had no way of...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    rwb noted <Genesis 37:9 (KJV) sun, moon, 11 stars> Yes, IMO in the metaphorical context of Genesis 37:9 "sun, moon, eleven stars" takes the meaning "father, mother, eleven brothers."
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    RWB asked: "Star" represents multiple things, it depends upon the context. That particular context IMO warranted angels.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    IMO: Genesis 37:9 "wandering stars" refers to Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. The ancients did not discern the difference between stars and planets. How could they?
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    Why the great chain?

    Marty Fox asked about "chain." IMO: Satan is a cherub with a physical body, no reason he could not be chained, with a strong ("great") chain. Sad, because he at one time served in the very Presence of God, in the true temple in heaven.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    My opinion: o The woman is the nation Israel. o The sun is Jacob. o The moon is Jacob's wife Rachael--and by extension his wife Leah, as well as his concubine Bilhah, and Leah's maid Zilpah, all of whom bore sons to Jacob. o The twelve stars are the twelve sons of Jacob, progenitors of the...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    "Day of the Lord" is a figure of speech referring to the events that will occur during this time. The church has always suffered tribulation (John 16-33). My model is pre-great-tribulation (Matthew 24-21). The Bible says, "The Lord will come suddenly to his temple" (Malachi 3:1). No temple, no...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    "Day of the Lord" is a figure of speech referring to the events that will occur during this time. IMO the rapture is indicated in the following verses: o. Revelation 11:12 o. Revelation 14:16 o. John 14:2-3 o. 1Corinthians 15:51-53 o. 1Thessalonians 4:15-17 This is at the midpoint of the...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    IMO: "Great tribulation" is indicated in Matthew 24:21. The "rapture" is indicated in John 14:2-3, 1Corinthians 15:51-53, 1Thessalonians 4:15-17, Revelation 11:12, 14:1. The rapture begins at the midpoint of the final (70th) seven, see Daniel 9:24-27. The rapture occurs when Jesus descends to...
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    THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN: How "shortly"?

    IMO: o "Seven seals" refers to seven dabs of wax sealing a rolled-up scroll. o "Seven trumpets" signals attention to the reading of the scroll. o "Seven bowls" (of hot oil, method of torture) are severe judgments ordained in the scroll.
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    The book of Mormon was authored by Joseph Smith Jr. (1805-1844), an illiterate lying vagabond...

    The book of Mormon was authored by Joseph Smith Jr. (1805-1844), an illiterate lying vagabond born in Sharon, VT. He dictated it to a scribe, using his imagination and also using verbatim copying from books available to him. It is nonsense. He met his demise in Kirtland, Ohio when a group of...
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    Revelation 4 interpretation

    IMO: These people are merely removed from a battlefield temporarily. The apostle Paul was caught up to heaven (2Corinthians 12:2), was he immortal?
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    Revelation 4 interpretation

    This is the true temple in heaven, no men. I presume the elders are angels.
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    The Beast Revelation

    Anchorite noted: "laid on him the iniquity." IMO: Satan entered into Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus, who was slain by the Romans at the behest of Pilate. Hence the players here include: o Satan o Judas o Pilate o Roman executioners o Everyone of us (since all sinned in Adam, Romans 5:15)...
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    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    Revelation 13:12 says: "...και ποιει την γην και τους εν αυτηι κατοικουντας ινα προσκυνησουσιν το θηριον..." "...and he makes the *LAND* and those inhabiting it worship the beast..." There was no concept of planet *EARTH* in Biblical times.
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    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    "Everyone on earth" IMO is a misleading translation. The New Testament was written in Greek, and this phrase (Revelation 13:8) is Greek: παντες οι κατοικουντες της γης all. those. inhabiting. the. land There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.
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    A BLATANT ERROR IN THE NEW BIBLES

    <Just asking, not being argumentative, why is the same Hebrew word "Elohim" used when referring to the false goddess Ashtoreth:> Hebrew El = "lord, master ruler, etc.". It is not specific to Yahweh. Elohim is the Hebrew plural of El. We call this a "plural of majesty" when used to denote a...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    A star is a bright object in the sky. The ancients thought of the planets as "wandering stars" (Jude 13). This concept can be extended, for example we speak of movie stars, that are attractive people. Likewise bright angels and cherubim can be thought of as stars. Angels are incredibly...
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    The Beast Revelation

    <No, Daniel's 70th week is the 7yr tribulations for Israel and the whole world...2/3 of their population will die during this time.> There was no concept or of plant earth in Biblical times.
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    The Beast Revelation

    Anchorage noted: <Wrong. Jesus paid our penalty.> True, but check out 1Corinthians 2:8. Jesus offered his own life to God the Father, in place of our lives.