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  1. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    Yes that is what I was saying
  2. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    No I haven't changed my view at all and yes it does connect. I didn't say equals the great tribulation in Revelation 7, but the saints killed in Matthew 24 are part of the ones in Revelation from every tribe tong and nation. The key words are every tribe tong and nation, Israel is one of every...
  3. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    Yes of course I agree, but they are also a part of the ones in Revelation from every tribe toung and nation. The ones in revelation are from all over the world since the first advent The key words are every tribe toung and nation, Israel is one of the every tribe toung and nation Israel in a...
  4. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    The tribulation Jesus talks about on the saints in Matthew 24 is the same as Revelation. They are a part of the great multitude from every tribe toung and nation
  5. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    Yes tribulation but not the great tribulation Are you saying that the great multitude from every tribe tongue and nation were killed in Jerusalem in 70AD? Revelation 7 The Great Multitude in White Robes 9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count...
  6. Marty fox

    When and why will God destroy the world?

    Were you asking me? If so I don’t have one and the bible shows that God will destroy our world but the OP is my view which I believe expIan’s itself but not everything on earth is Gods doing or will. Sin is not Gods doing
  7. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    How can you not see that a tribulation period can't be the wrath of God? Gods wrath upon someone can be a time of tribulation for that same someone can't it? The descriptions are there
  8. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    My bad "of God"
  9. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    Gods wrath on apostate Israel was a tribulation to apostate Israel. Re read the three text that I quoted and you will see that it was the wrath of God
  10. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    Then who did it and for whose purpose? As the verses I provided shows that Rome did it for Gods purpose
  11. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    Yes 70AD was a great tribulation but not "the great tribulation". There are many great tribulations in our world currently and in the past but Jeus told the angles to tell John what "the great tribulation" was it singled out. 70AD was the wrath of God on apostate Israel Luke 19 41 As he...
  12. Marty fox

    My personal eclectic view

    Hello Randy old friend, it looks like you have altered a few of your views which is good but the bible does state that "the great tribulation" is on the church not ethnic Israel. Revelation 7 9 After this I saw a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and...
  13. Marty fox

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Riding on the clouds or a day of clouds was a sign of Old Testament judgement, the verse below wasn't literal either Isaiah 19 This message came to me concerning Egypt: Look! The Lord is advancing against Egypt, riding on a swift cloud. The idols of Egypt tremble. The hearts of the...
  14. Marty fox

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Post trib If you think about it the circumstances and characters aren’t the same in each text
  15. Marty fox

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    No I don’t believe so, the one in Matthew is Jesus coming in judgement in 70AD and the one in Revelation is symbolic for Jesus defeating all of His enemies with the sword of His mouth His word
  16. Marty fox

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    You misunderstand me, of course the bible is the spiritually inspired word of God but some the books are written and addressed to certain people at certain times for certain circumstance, some of the bible was to them not us but they are lessons and teaching for all of the church
  17. Marty fox

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    I wasn’t attacking your view I used to view the same myself, I was advising people to start fresh and investigate what the bible really says from the biblical language that it was originally written in and what the message was to the actual people it was originally written too. It wasn’t...
  18. Marty fox

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    Yes true but I was in that same boat for years listening to preachers and then came the left behind books and I thought that I had it all figured out. What changed for me was the Hank Hanagraph book the apocalypse code and Hank said that the code to the book of revelation is the other books of...