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As a matter of fact there are several points you think you make, and fail, because YOU DO NOT KNOW the pretrib rapture doctrine. If you get 100 % Honest, and cast down all the rabbit trails, grsb a bible, and debate honestly, I can defend the pretrib rapture doctrine quite handily We can start...

Not saying it is. I am saying we also believe that passage. I am not the one DEPENDING on other men's doctrine. Funny how you are posting verses that both sides use , then thinking you did something I know your doctrine. You do not know mine. Si you find a verse that can make either position...

QUOTE "Tertullian - " Now the privilege of this favor (to be raptured) awaits those who shall at the coming of the Lord be found in the flesh (those who are alive) and who shall, owing to the oppression of the time of Antichrist, deserve by an instantaneous death (Tertullian's way of describing...

Trolling with false claims about me is spouting nonsense. I am reporting what is there You know, what you misrepresented.

QUOTE "The Pastor of Hermes - " Happy are ye who endure the great tribulation that is coming on..." Vision Second (Chapter xvi) "Those, therefore, who continue steadfast, and are put through the fire, will be purified by means of it...Wherefore cease not speaking these things into the ears of...

QUOTE "Justin Martyr - " The man of apostasy (Antichrist)...shall venture to do unlawful deeds on the earth against us christians..."from Dialogue with Trypho the Jew AD 110." Yes the PRETRIB rapture teaches EXACTLY THAT. TY for another pretrib rapture confirmation.

QUOTE "Commodianus and Victorinus both placed the rapture of the church after the appearance of the Antichrist and prior to the millennium. Instructions xliv, lxxx and Commentary of the Apocalypse VII, 351 ff. respectively." Ahem....so does the pretrib rapture doctrine. How ridiculous to...

Tell me it ain't so. Today, at this late hour, pushing aside the bible, to place men, and their error , ahead of it.

All of those listed were before Rome took over. Doctrine is not dependant on anyone's infallibility. Hundreds of mens trusted Doctrines have been ruined by the bible. Those you trust is what birthed catholicism. That is why the catholics also place them just under God himself, and justify their...

SMH. Nothing in your corrupt view of me is true. I asked you a couple of questions you could not answer. So now your trolling me is your "go to" The talmud is your obsession, not mine. I could care less how you spin it or frame it. Label it false...i don't care Label it inspired...I don't...

Great dodge sir! That side stepping will work in your circles for sure!

At catholic.com they give a list of 9 or 10 church fathers that believed in transubstantiation of the bread and wine In foxes book of martyrs the catholics burned Christians for not worshipping the bread and wine. The church fathers also falsely believed in the erroneous post trib rapture...

What a waste of sentences. 1) you have no clue as to what is meant in romans 9, 10, and 11. No clue. No clue, of the FUTURE REDEMPTION of the Jews. Look at the components you leave out. 1) the time of the Gentiles completed 2) the fullness of the Gentiles. 3) the illustration in the book of...

Trolling me. I report what is there. ( the things you dance around like a clown) Go play jr.

Calling it several names is meaningless when they both point to a rabbit trail. If you can not answer my 3 previous questions, that are beyond simple, and then accuse me of stupidity,....well that is really dumb. Maybe you are unable to answer any easy questions? Just too difficult for you...

I don't need your misplaced configuring of a bible/world view. That is your need. Not mine

What tribe are you of? the 144,000 are firstfruits JEWS. As the bible clearly says. You are claiming to be firstfruits? The bible says JESUS IS THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THE CHURCH. So no, your blenderizing of Revelation is way way off. You do realize changing the book of Revelation is forbidden?

Talmud Google Talmud (Hebrew for "study" or "learning") is a central, foundational text of Rabbinic Judaism, serving as the primary compilation of Jewish oral law, tradition, and debates My statement "Most postribbers are antisemetic." Antisemitic Google Antisemitic refers to prejudice...

Is Israel bad? Do you pray for Israel? Are the 144,000 from the 12 tribes future ethic Jewish firstfruits?

Most postribbers are antisemitic