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Rev 14:14 A gathering DURING THE TRIB AND BEFORE YOUR SUPPOSED RAPTURE AFTER THE GT. So, you have the dead in Christ, of 1 thes 4 , PRECEDED BY THE LIVING. Because your doctrine is not complete, you can not claim any high ground. You are operating off of supposition. No postribber can unpack...

I think you need to read what happens during the GT. You are portraying it as a cake walk, when Jesus framed it as horrific and never to be anything like it again. NO MAN MIGHT BUY OR SELL UNLESS HE HAS THE MARK. ALL TAKE THE MARK. ALL REFUSING IT ARE KILLED.

1) the setting for the rapture of the bride is normal life. 2) the setting after the GT is chaos and half the planet destroyed ( zero normal life). 3) Jesus said "before the flood one will be taken and one left behind " (Not after the flood...not after Sodom burned) 4) The GT is Jacob's trouble...

Jesus told the ones to be taken to be ready. Conversely those not ready were told to "go and buy". The "readiness" is to be ready AT HIS COMING. Anyone wanting to miss the rapture has a very easy job. That job would be to neglect their walk and simply operate as a carnal believer. There is no...

Mat 24. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the...

Ok We do not need that nastiness of calling your opponent "escapists". Please refrain from that nastiness It is unnecessary.

Calling pretribbers escapists,then, When I push back, you get offended? The sarc is how you are framing the bible. I gave you all the examples of God's escapes. ( you framed escaping as a bad thing). I am MERELY AGREEING with you that God must be flawed in his testimony as an escapist....via...

1 thes 4 Rev 14:14 Mat 24 Mat 25. All speak of Jesus gathering his elect. Jesus taught 2 separate comings in mat 24

I can EASILY DEFEND the pretrib rapture doctrine. You are deceived friend. Men have deceived you. They throw generalities at the discussion. ....and stay away from meaningful debate.

Cowards in here mocking with no comments. Pure little cowards.

QUOTE "...also a proponent of it, and sadly taught others in it :( I now see it as an escapism theology)"" That evil Jesus with his escapeism!!!! Jesus said " pray that you may be COUNTED WORTHY to ESCAPE the things about to come upon the world and stand before the Son of God." Jesus said "...

1) Jesus taught the pretrib rapture. 2) Rev 14:14 has a gathering before the second coming ( forever debunking "one coming" nonsense) 3) the bible says EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD TAKE THE MARK. ( AHEM...THOSE REFUSING DIE). 4) why do all the "I used to be a pretribber" testimonials have the same...

Wrong. The bible is a LIVING WORD. INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. IT IS A SPIRIT BOOK WRITTEN BY A SPIRIT MAN. ....TO HIS PEOPLE. Your starting place is flawed.

You can lie like that with a clear conscience? You need to get saved. Jesus will clean out all your lying spirits.

Lol You don't even know what the video has as content. You are just here to mindlessly troll. The video DOES NOT ATTEMPT TO ESTABLISH ANY DOCTRINE. But since you did not investigate your ignorance remains. Go troll some other thread. You and your clown buddies. This Is big boy stuff here .

Ever noticed who the mockers and jokers are? Preterists. They can not hide that evil operating in them. Like little pests buzzing in on others threads. Unable to honestly defend their misguided "doctrine".

Yes that is correct. I can, with a bible, defend easily, the pretrib rapture doctrine. It is one of the easiest and solid doctrines of the bible. Pretrrists need their own threads since their grand canyon leaps are for the very brave. You have let men deceive you.

Postribbers will be sad to know that all the years they propped up a false hope that Darby started the pretrib rapture doctrine

In the last part of the vid,we see a ton of reference to ancient pre trib rapture teaching.

That's like saying the setting, of Acts one, "like manner," has nothing to do with the second coming, when "like manner " is directly pointing TO THE SETTING.