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    Symbolism

    Maybe you are dogmatic about that, maybe you're not. The following contradicts that since it is meaning before the fall ever took place. Genesis 1:14 ¶And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons...
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    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    LOL. You mean the same Premils that argue Isaiah 65:17-25 is meaning during the millennium? Not only do those verses mention a new Jerusalem, they also mention a NHNE. And according to Revelation 21-22, one can't have a new Jerusalem without also having a NHNE. Therefore, these Premils are being...
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    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    Here is the problem. Especially if one is Premil and insists that the NJ does not come down from God out of heaven until after the GWTJ. Which means---the 2nd coming--followed by the millennium---followed by satan's little season---followed by the GWTJ---followed by--the NJ comes down from God...
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    The Third Woe

    You keep talking about purchasing an app such as PSP to make charts. Yet, I bet one can simply log into chatgpt, show it an image of one of your charts, then ask it to build an app that can make charts similar to your style of charts Then not even 5 minutes later Chatgpt has built such an app...
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    The Third Woe

    Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Who should we assume is meaning the woman here? Some propose that the woman is meaning the church. But how...
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    The Third Woe

    One thing I find annoying about charts like this, is this. Let's say there is a block of text in your chart one wants to bring attention to. But because it is an image file, one can't copy then paste any text from your chart., obviously They have to type it out by hand. If you at least made...
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    The Third Woe

    The way you are reasoning some of these things is pretty much the same as how some reason the trumpets and vials. That because both might have some things in common, this means when trumpet 1 sounds and before trumpet 2 sounds, vial 1 is unleashed first. Then when trumpet 2 sounds and before...
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    The Third Woe

    Am meaning the following in general, thus applicable to anyone who is understanding anything correctly. So, assuming one is understanding some of the Bible correctly, guess what? One didn't first need charts to understand what they understand. They were able to understand from written words...
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    The Third Woe

    What I think is probably likely. The 6th seal=the 7th trumpet=the last 7 vials of wrath. The 5th seal=the 42 month reign of the beast. Therefore, the 42 month reign can't be after the 6th seal, which then means neither can trumpet 1 followed by trumpet 2, etc, be after the 6th seal. IOW, all 7...
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    Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

    The point is, once that verse is fulfilled, this means there is nothing preventing something from continuing all throughout eternity at that point. Which then means some things have to be meaning before that verse is fulfilled, otherwise it is applicable all throughout eternity. It makes zero...
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    Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

    THis is what I initially queried in Google. Therefore, if anyone made anything up it wasn't me. ------------------- if a potter's vessel gets broken into pieces, is it possible to mold the vessel into something better ------------------ THe following was one answer I received: Yes, a broken...
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    Man's Preterism, An Abomination

    Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Which then ignores some of what the passage plainly says--Behold, he cometh with clouds. What you are proposing...
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    Man's Preterism, An Abomination

    The reason you are not trying to persuade using logic is because you are being illogical to begin with Therefore, you act as if some of the rest of us are as stupid as you are being here, by chalking it up as a lack of Biblical understanding on our part. I usually don't use the word 'stupid'...
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    Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

    In Revelation 20:11-15, for example, I only see God alone judging everyone. Nowhere in those verses do I see the saved co-judging with Him. Though, I don't take the sheep and goats judgment to be meaning te GWTJ, the same is equally true here. Nowhere in that account does it ever depict the...
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    Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

    I thought you asked the question because you personally maybe thought those 3 chapters might fit postmill? Maybe just wrong assumptions on my part since you did not explain why that might be worthy or not worthy of pursuing further. Therefore, if you perhaps think those 3 chapters can maybe fit...
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    Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

    Thus far, good arguments. I'll leave it at that. And Amil is ignoring Zechariah 14:12 and what follows after that verse, not before that verse, but after that verse, meaning Zechariah 14:16-19. Psalms 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost...
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    Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

    You started this OP some days ago and have yet to explain why you think this is the solution. Speaking for myself, I gave numerous reasons why I don't think it is the solution. But that doesn't explain why you think it is the solution by placing all 3 chapters after the millennium during satan's...
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    Could Ezekiel 37, 38 and 39 all be post millennial?

    No mention of a thousand years, yet a period of time after the 2nd coming and before 1 Corinthians 15:28 is fulfilled, is obviously implied. All Amil seems to do with these things is to flatten them into one day events. It makes zero sense to give overcomers power over the nations after Christ...
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    Is Revelation 20:1-6 really a recap?

    Thinking out loud here again. Comparing Revelation 1:18 with Revelation 20:4. Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth(zao), and was dead; and, behold, I am alive(zao) for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and...
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    Is Revelation 20:1-6 really a recap?

    If anyone lacks understanding here, it is not me, it is you. I'm not denying one has to be born again first in order to never die. But even so, unless you think we should rip 1 Corinthians 15:51-57 out of the Bible altogether, those verses alone plainly tell us when one can never literally die...