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  1. Runningman

    Understanding the GodHead.

    For me, what Jesus said is enough. Provided that he said the Father is the only true God, he never taught anyone to pray to himself and never taught anyone to worship himself then that seems clear. It's possible people are coming at the Bible from different approaches. When I first started...
  2. Runningman

    Understanding the GodHead.

    The Bible also speaks of God's children being His offspring in the general sense because there are two different sides to this coin. What's your take on people being both adopted and offspring at the same time and in what sense?
  3. Runningman

    Understanding the GodHead.

    It's true that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and that makes him unique, but on the other hand there are also many children of God. What status do the various sons/daughters of God have?
  4. Runningman

    Understanding the GodHead.

    Thanks, but I just wanted to see if you thought it was literal like you do with John 1:1. I just wanted to see if you would agree or try to explain it all away. I think you have a heavy Trinitarian bias or at least a heavy bias toward the alleged deity of Jesus because you had previously said...
  5. Runningman

    Understanding the GodHead.

    Not to interrupt, but, if I may, would you consider 1 John 1:1-3 literal? John departed from his narrative concerning the Word in John 1:1. He wrote about the Word, not as a personal being, but as a thing. What do you think? 1 John 1 (KJV) 1That which was from the beginning, which we have...
  6. Runningman

    Understanding the GodHead.

    The Father is stated to be a distinct individual from the Son in Trinitarian thought. In Trinitarian thought, each of the three are God, yet not three Gods, but one God. While these sorts of statements can be found in creeds, they cannot be found in the Bible. A statement contrary to the...
  7. Runningman

    Understanding the GodHead.

    How can Jesus be the creator when God didn't speak in the past through the Son, but only spoke through him in these last days, contrary to the Bible saying God spoke in beginning to create the heavens and earth? And how can the Son be the creator when he is an appointed heir? The Creator doesn't...
  8. Runningman

    The Best Revenge?

    When's lunch?
  9. Runningman

    The Rapture is About to Happen, Here's Why--Rapture?

    A literal taking-up into the sky after being resurrected seems to be the case because it happened to Jesus. I wouldn't say it makes complete sense to spiritualize the concept for everyone else. It seems to be the case that early Christians believed they would experience what Jesus did after...
  10. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    When you want to answer my reply to you I am here.
  11. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    If Jesus is the Word, and God is the Trinity, then which God was the Word with? In this particular verse, the words "goings forth" can also mean origin. Many versions translate it this way and it would mean Jesus had a point of origin or a beginning and therefore would not literally be from...
  12. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I believe, generally speaking, they do believe that they are the church. There are no shortages of old doctrines and writings they can quote, but what they cannot truly lay claim to is the Bible. There are many affirmations of the Trinity or the deity of Jesus in writings, but none in the Bible...
  13. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    There is a tid bit in 1 Thess. 4:14 that seems to be evidence that God and Jesus are not the same actor. 1 Thess. 4 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
  14. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    If I may, since Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever (Heb. 13:8) then how did he become something he was not before? I just ask this as food for thought. The way I see it is that Adam was the first man, but Jesus is also a man. I believe Jesus is still a man now.
  15. Runningman

    Doing good, thank you!

    Doing good, thank you!
  16. Runningman

    Walter, it's been a long time sir. How are you? God bless, Brother Runningman

    Walter, it's been a long time sir. How are you? God bless, Brother Runningman
  17. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Yes and amen. I think that is a great way to put it. On the other hand, I do like to share what I believe even if it is with those who will forever disagree. We are all on the same playing field called the Bible, but we are just not all agreeing what it means exactly. I think eventually it...
  18. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Unitarianism (which I also believe) is considered to be based more on conventional logic than on theological reasoning. For example, a Son is born and therefore did not exist eternally. On the other hand, in a theological or philosophical argument, the Son may have always existed, which defies...
  19. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    May I ask, are you a Binitarian?
  20. Runningman

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    To be fair, the Bible does not explicitly state what you claimed anywhere, especially in regards to specifically "three persons." However, God is described as one person repeatedly even though, as far as I know, the KJV is the only one that actually calls God a person in Hebrews 1.