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If it is true now, shouldn't it have been a doctrine to begin somewhere before; Like the Catholic church from which came the Lutheran Church neither of which believed it up till....today. Finally in 1830 John Darby is given credit for the doctrine. And he was PRE TRIB. Now we have MID TRIB...

How could it be any clearer you ask? Let me share from a 4 year bible study on this very subject. It came in the mail once a month. Each issue was 12 pages long and started in 1986. Below is just 2 paragraphs to hopefully help you see that there may a lot more for you to see, in just...

On Monday at 7:18 in post # 622 you said, concerning me: "It’s obvious you do not know the difference between the old nature. And the new nature given By God when we are saved. I will leave you to your wisdom.." Since you wouldn't answer me in a private PM, I'll ask on the WWW. Are you...

I missed nothing in what I quoted.....but you did. That quoted part of the verse wasn't even speaking to UNBELIEVERS. And what you did miss concerning what I left out on purpose is this. God is working your soul's WILL as a OSAS 'wholly justified' 'born again' spirit believer, to now...

1 I agree 2 I disagree 3a I don't see Signature back???? 3b And the blind man says I see a "crimson rose" clearly. :woohoo!:

I'm sorry that's the case PHI 2:13 for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. To God be the Glory AMEN.

IF the Father didn't "Predestine, called, ordain, draw," you, to get your 'spirit born' AGAIN into the family of Christ in this life, your first chance won't be in this age. There was no initial 'still births the first time, are no partial rebirths in this age and there are no second chances in...

I think the SPIRIT they weren't following the day they ate, wasn't the Holy Spirit of the LORD GOD. It was the spirit from God he breathed into their bodies giving that body immortal life. And they could not walk away from that spirit which gave the flesh the 'animating' life force of all...

My thought goes to how "ashamed" they were, because earlier it said; GEN 2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. My thoughts early on were also, what was covering them before and was now LOST. I can't prove where I've landed but I believe they lost the robe...

Wow, I journey alone here, so I will quit. Too bad, never even got one response from the two I asked to join. Maybe I should have opened it up to all comers. Surely someone would have stood up for 'their beliefs and hopes'. 1PE 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be...

I meant to "give no offense" and when I respond with a scripture I do so, not to say my "humble opinion is right and your opinion is WRONG!!! I sincerely need to know what your take is on that verse from your studies which obviously differ from mine. I want to know if I have missed a 'leaf...

Like the song says "I can only imagine" and that's 'that's for sure'. But we all have opinions based upon....uhhh...yeah. I like to say "Everyone one has a right to their opinion, but that doesn't mean everyone's opinion is right. 1CO 2:11 For what person knows a man's thoughts (soul realm)...

Uhh why don't you TRY TO TEACH IT I obviously have studied it and backed my study with SCRIPTURES to your apparent 'impaled chagrin.' Let me TRY again really simple this time. SON you are the spittin IMAGE of your father. VERSUS SON you act just LIKE your Dad! Final test Which of the above...

I hope you're not making this nameless comment about me. If you are, just let me know...proudly do so, of course. ;) I'll tell you where the ADAMS family sin nature came from, their stinking thinking double MINDED fleshly mindedSOULS, and not the spirits which were in them from God. GEN 3:6...

'Yo' back to ya Bro. From my studies you are confusing the "image" of God which is spirit, with the "likeness" of God which is soul (mind will emotions) which all people have because the soul basically is the brain functioning. Adam and Eve weren't made "LIKE" God or they would have never...

Your opinion....only??? Help me out with one at least. ROM 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Just exactly whose FLESH did Jesus 'condemn the SIN nature'...

the NT does teach PHYSICAL/flesh death due to sin. But sin which is a death sentence which will take place WHEN? JAM 1:15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death. Hmm so DEATH doesn't happen the moment or 'the 24 day' you sin...

What died on the cross as the price for sin....which was death. Was it his ALIVE spirit that died? NO. Was it Jesus' "sinful FLESH" natured body? YES! Adam/Eve both died physical deaths, although there is no record of Eve ever dying, but scripture does say Adam died at a ripe old age. But...

Who says that "close personal connection" was lost the moment they ate, OR even in the 24 hour period after they ate? Does that come from scripture or just the church???? My scripture I am presently basing my opinion on is this; GEN 4:16 Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD, and...

So,Bro, it looks like "LAMBANO" is now as hard to find as KILROY was.....on the WWII monument last week when I went to Washington DC on the Honor Flight with 150 other Vets. From POST 37: QUESTION ONE Where are you and your wife with 'our' 1st conclusion "Love the SINNER but not the SIN?"...