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  1. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    I am surprised that no one really understand what the "times of the Gentiles" is. :rolleyes:
  2. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    @rwb , I don't think they know they believe this because it's the easiest conclusion to hold, but in practice that is the case. Why else would anyone not take the time to notice how inconsistent, conflicting, and unsound the foundation of this whole theory actually is? It simply does not fit the...
  3. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Mat 24:15-16 (15) When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) (16) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Sorry no. Christ did not talk about the temple at the...
  4. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    You assume Matthew 24 must be interpreted literally because you begin with that presupposition. But Christ repeatedly taught in spiritual language that only those with ears to hear would understand (Matthew 13:10-17; Mark 4:11-12). This is a big difference between you and me! No. Jesus did...
  5. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Clearly, you're changing the subject. :laughing: This thread is about the passages I've presented in OP, yet instead of refuting them, you're directing everyone to an entirely different thread about Satan? That isn't a biblical refutation of anything I've written here. If my interpretation...
  6. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Say a natural man. The Lord Judges and I am comfortable with that! :csm Listen dude... Calling it "baloney" is not a biblical refutation. Simply dismissing an interpretation does not answer the Scriptures I cited. "If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God" (1 Peter 4:11). You...
  7. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Please allow me and enjoy your popcorn, RWB. Covenantee...your question assumes these terms must all be understood literally. Nope! Throughout Scripture, God uses physical places, objects, and events to represent spiritual realities. Jesus frequently taught this way (John 6:63), and the New...
  8. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Seriously, Jesus Christ as Commander in chief of Roman army? Thanks for a good laugh for the day. Your warped interpretation begins with an assumption that "Jerusalem" in the Olivet Discourse must mean the physical city in the Middle East in 70AD. But that assumption needs to be proven from...
  9. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    LOL! No, it was not a coincidence. However, fulfillment of a prophecy does not automatically mean the fulfillment is exhausted by the physical event. Many Old Testament prophecies had an immediate historical fulfillment while also pointing to a greater fulfillment in Christ, don't you realize...
  10. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    True! These passage has NOTHING to do with your precious false 70AD doctrine because this is not what Christ talked about at all! Read the verse carefully: Here you go again with false assumption.. and lack of spiritual discernment! You're assuming the prophecy is exhausted by the events of...
  11. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Indeed. For many years, I also assumed Jesus was referring to literal stones that He could miraculously make cry out. But after comparing Scripture with Scripture, I came to see that Christ was painting a much deeper spiritual picture. Throughout the Bible, stones carry rich covenantal and...
  12. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Interesting. You keep insisting I haven't addressed your points, yet your "points" consist mostly of assertions about me rather than biblical refutations of my position. If I've missed something, then quote the specific passage of Scripture that disproves what I wrote in my original post. So...
  13. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Notice that neither of you two has actually refuted a single passage of Scripture I've presented. Instead, you've labeled me "arrogant" and "lacking in spiritual discernment." If my interpretation is truly wrong, then demonstrate it from the text. Show where I've violated the context...
  14. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Instead of refuting my biblical arguments, you've resorted to judging my character. That's not a refutation—it's an ad hominem attack. If you believe my interpretation of Scripture is wrong, then open the Scriptures and show where I have mishandled the text. Simply calling me "a terrible man"...
  15. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    More blabbing nonsenses with false accusations. You continue to deny the biblical point without actually addressing it. My response is simply this: Matthew 13:10–17 "To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." Jesus Himself...
  16. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Your response consists almost entirely of assertions and personal attacks, not biblical refutation. Repeating that I "lack spiritual discernment" does not prove your interpretation; it merely avoids engaging the Scriptures I cited. Selah! No one disputes that there were literal temple...
  17. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    LOL!!!! What? No biblical refutation? Calling my interpretation "Gnosticism" is simply a red herring. Labeling something a heresy is not an argument—it is an attempt to dismiss the discussion without engaging the Scriptures I presented. If you believe my interpretation is wrong, then...
  18. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    More lesson on Spiritual Discernment sml Many people believe that Luke 19 is talking about talking rocks. Luke 19:40-42 "And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city...
  19. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    I believe you need to reread my original posts and consider them carefully. It seems you've missed the point of what I was actually discussing. Before drawing conclusions or asking the same questions again, take the time to understand the context and the argument I presented. You got involved...
  20. TribulationSigns

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Please read here and here and think again. Your repeated fixation on finding out what denomination or congregation I belong to says more about your approach than it does about my testimony. Instead of examining the Scriptures I have presented, you continue trying to place me into a...