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LOL That wasn't what Jesus was saying. Jesus says "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church, and I will give you [Peter] the keys..."--the subject never changes, it goes from "You are Peter [rock]" and then "on this rock [Peter] I will build My Church" and then "I will give you...

Right, the Scriptures were about Him. The Bronze Serpent was about Christ, in a way, but it wasn't in plain sight. It was hidden in ages past (Ro 16:25)--what is your response to that?

No, if they were right, I would be Catholic, but the doctrine of Mary as the New Eve is an error. I'm not saying they're not a valid Church--I believe people know God because He is merciful (Jer 31:34), not because they have perfect doctrine. I'm not saying they don't know God. I believe...

It does not follow from prominence or loss or prominence of this or that preacher that their messages differed--non-sequitur. You have to actually prove the claim.

Not at all--I'm saying that, in general, when God speaks to makind, it is good news (when Abraham is told that he will have offspring as numerous as the stars of the heavens, that was the good news to him; when Noah was told God would destroy the earth, but that he would be preserved through the...

Yes, and it is based on an error--Mary as New Eve.

So, if the bride of Christ is Israel, not the Church, why does Christ say He will build His Church upon Peter--making Peter both part of Christ's bride ("Israel"), and not part of Christ's bride ("the Church")?

Which is what? The Gospel was kept a mystery in the past (Ro 16:25), which was why none of the Apostles understood that he had to die and be raised--neither did anyone else in the past. The messages they believed were definitely God's Word, but the message about His Son dying and rising as a...

They were just but not perfected, meaning that they had not partaken, meaning they were not privy to Christ's death and resurrection. Hebrews 11 39And all these, having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised, 40because God had provided something better for us, so...

What does it mean to be David's seed reigning as Israel's King? That he's the Messiah. That's at least part of Peter's point. He also does a homily on "raise up your seed", because, obviously, God just meant that David would have a seed reigning from the throne, but Peter riffs on the word...

How so? Paul defines "righteousness apart from works" as "being forgiven" (Ro 4:6-8), and it is based upon this righteousness that we are justified (Ro 5:1). On the contrary, it is yourself who is baselessly seeing a mutual exclusivity between Paul and Peter.

Yes. "remission" there is the Greek word "ἄφεσιν", which means "forgiveness", so there's no issue with anything I said--ie, when Peter preached forgiveness of sins, it is the same message as Paul saying "justification", because justification is by righteousness, and the righteousness he preaches...

So? Israel is a nation--Peter was apparently mainly sent to Israel, Paul was sent to non-Israel nations. Thomas apparently went to India.

The title of the thread is "the Church is not the bride of Christ". Who, in your view, is "the bride of Christ"?

The purpose was to make sure he hadn't run in vain--to verify his Gospel was accurate. How could he do that? By asking those who would have known best what the Gospel was.

Romans 16:25 says the Gospel was kept a mystery, so, no, it could not have been the same Gospel. They had hints, etc, but it was kept a mystery in ages past. Gospel means "good news", so, yes, they heard "good news" (Abraham heard that he would have innumerable offspring, etc), but it was not...

You said that the Gospel of the remnant of Israel differed from the Gospel of Paul, because their salvation wasn't secure, but our salvation is secure, and you used John 15, which says they could be cut off, to prove this, but "Paul's Gospel" contains the very same warning (Ro 11:17-22), so, do...

You mean "uh-oh, my story is falling apart"? LOL! Matthew 16:18“I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church According to you, those who hear and believe "Peter's Gospel" become part of "the remnant of Israel", which you say is Christ's bride, whereas those...

When Paul wrote "one faith", Peter was still around, and those who believed "Peter's Gospel" were still around--again, your story doesn't check out.